I love waiting an extra 7 seconds for videos to load for the crime of using Firefox. They forgot to put the artificial timer on shorts, so those work fine.
All enshittification is a shame, but doing it to youtube feels especially bad.
The platform already has a critical mass, to where it was essentially democratized television. If you want to make documentaries, DIY how-to’s, or fictional comedies, the answer is the same. Youtube would be the home for any long-form videos requiring working attention spans.
But with the enshittification, not only is the experience worse for viewers as well as creators, but it provides a motive for people to migrate away from the platform.
So what we’re going to see will be akin to the transformation from when Netflix was the one stop shop for streaming movies and shows for one low price, versus now where it’s just one overpriced service out of many.
Yesterday I wanted to watch a video.
The second I air played it to my tv YouTube reloaded the video at 360p resolution and removed the up to 1440p resolutions from the list.
Fuck YouTube.
https://fmhy.net/ , maybe you find something .
Enshittification 🌈🦄
80% of the browser extensions I have are all for youtube. I’m trying to cut down with Stylus and GreasyFork scripts. I use Invidious more often, but the shit goes down frequently and it’s completely unpredictable, not to mention wholly unreliable for hosting any watch lists.
I’m downloading more .mp4 files than I have since the Limewire days. I just can’t stand the bloat anymore. My Windows Media Player be lookin’ like Gary on the last leg of the Great Snail Race with the amount of use it’s suddenly getting after not being launched in years lol
No way, you need a wider angle shot of the meth super lab for the meme to even come close to describing the enshittification run that YT and Google as a whole as on.
Smart tube for my tv. On my desktop I have firefox and a couple youtube addons and strategic elements on the site are blocked with my ad blocker. My youtube literally just looks like a grid of videos without frills
would you like to share your extension setup?
Android is going this way rapidly. As well as things like AndroidTV. I got a Shield and it was literally unusable without putting Projectivity Launcher on it.
What have they done now?
It’s still YT based of course, but I’ve been using Nebula and Invidious for years to access vids coming from YT. Also watch Curiosity Stream.
I haven’t seen ads in a long long time. I even paid for a lifetime subscription to Nebula because I’d prefer to support through Nebula than through Google.
Curiosity Stream is private equity, btw
Try freetube ,skytube ,newpipe ,grayjay, etc
Grayjay is not FOSS.
I know
Newpipe is amazing. Forgot to mention that one. The others I’ve heard of but never tried. Thanks!
Pipepipe also has sponsorblock.
Good luck
Dr. Alphabet: “We have billions…but squeeze the users more and we could have trillions.”
I pay for YouTube so I don’t see ads, I’m pretty happy with it.
The algorithm is still absolute garbage and it’s hard to browse to find anything you might be interested in.
💰 Includes paid promotion >
Ads are coming to your paid YouTube, just a matter of time
I don’t pay for youtube, never will and thanks to ublock origin I also don’t see ads.
If you are happy with it, you should still be upset with google. they were the ones who bought YouTube to puts ads on it.
I don’t pay for YouTube and I still don’t see ads. I’m deffo happy about it.
You guys still use YT ? 😂
Ofc. Silly to deny that
Alternatives that have the same amount of niche content?
watching the same content on an alternative front-end, like Invidious. it can be slow at times or not load every now and then, but given that there’s hardly any emeregency situations that require someone to load a video RIGHT AWAY THIS MINUTE, I find that it’s a pretty good tradeoff for the lack of ads, shorts, and the ability to completely hide the comments.
You get the same and more with adblock and sponsorblock. Ok maybe I’ve not covered shorts but I imagine that’s not hard to fix with a browser plugin too.
Ublock can hide shorts and the trending sections with a few select filters
Edit: Here’s the list of filters I have for Youtube. I forget where I found these, but they clean it up quite a bit.
spoiler
! Remove empty spaces in grid www.youtube.com##ytd-rich-grid-row,#contents.ytd-rich-grid-row:style(display: contents !important)
! Hide all videos containing the phrase “#shorts” www.youtube.com##ytd-grid-video-renderer:has(#video-title:has-text(/(^| )#Shorts?( |$)/i)) www.youtube.com##ytd-rich-item-renderer:has(#video-title:has-text(/(^| )#Shorts?( |$)/i))
! Hide all videos with the shorts indicator on the thumbnail www.youtube.com##ytd-grid-video-renderer:has([overlay-style=“SHORTS”]) www.youtube.com##ytd-rich-item-renderer:has([overlay-style=“SHORTS”]) www.youtube.com##ytd-video-renderer:has([overlay-style=“SHORTS”]) www.youtube.com##ytd-item-section-renderer.ytd-section-list-renderer[page-subtype=“subscriptions”]:has(ytd-video-renderer:has([overlay-style=“SHORTS”]))
! Hide shorts button in sidebar www.youtube.com##ytd-guide-entry-renderer:has(yt-formatted-string:has-text(/^Shorts$/i)) ! Tablet resolution www.youtube.com##ytd-mini-guide-entry-renderer:has(.title:has-text(/^Shorts$/i))
! Hide shorts sections except on history page www.youtube.com##:matches-path(/(?!/feed/history).*$/)ytd-rich-section-renderer:has(#title:has-text(/(| )Shorts( |$)/i)) www.youtube.com##:matches-path(/(?!/feed/history).*$/)ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:has(.ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:has-text(/(| )Shorts( |$)/i))
! Hide shorts tab on channel pages` ! Old style www.youtube.com##tp-yt-paper-tab:has(.tp-yt-paper-tab:has-text(Shorts)) ! New style (2023-10) www.youtube.com##yt-tab-shape:has-text(/^Shorts$/)
! Hide short remixes in video descriptions and in suggestions beside the comments www.youtube.com##ytd-reel-shelf-renderer:has(#title:has-text(/(^| )Shorts.?Remix.*$/i))
! Hide shorts category on homepage and search pages www.youtube.com##yt-chip-cloud-chip-renderer:has(yt-formatted-string:has-text(/^Shorts$/i))
!!! MOBILE !!!
! Hide all videos in home feed containing the phrase “#shorts” www.youtube.com##ytm-rich-item-renderer:has(#video-title:has-text(/(^| )#Shorts?( |$)/i))
! Hide all videos in subscription feed containing the phrase “#shorts” m.youtube.com##ytm-item-section-renderer:has(#video-title:has-text(/(^| )#Shorts?( |$)/i))
! Hide shorts button in the bottom navigation bar m.youtube.com##ytm-pivot-bar-item-renderer:has(.pivot-shorts)
! Hide all videos with the shorts indicator on the thumbnail m.youtube.com##ytm-video-with-context-renderer:has([data-style=“SHORTS”])
! Hide shorts sections except on history page m.youtube.com##:matches-path(/^(?!/feed/history).$/)ytm-rich-section-renderer:has(.reel-shelf-title-wrapper .yt-core-attributed-string:has-text(/(^| )Shorts( |$)/i)) m.youtube.com##:matches-path(/^(?!/feed/history).$/)ytm-reel-shelf-renderer.item:has(.reel-shelf-title-wrapper .yt-core-attributed-string:has-text(/(^| )Shorts( |$)/i))
! Hide shorts tab on channel pages ! Old style m.youtube.com##.single-column-browse-results-tabs>a:has-text(Shorts) ! New style (2023-10) m.youtube.com##yt-tab-shape:has-text(/^Shorts$/)
! Hide short remixes in video descriptions and in suggestions below the player m.youtube.com##ytm-reel-shelf-renderer:has(.reel-shelf-title-wrapper .yt-core-attributed-string:has-text(/(^| )Shorts.?Remix.*$/i))
! Hide shorts category on homepage m.youtube.com##ytm-chip-cloud-chip-renderer:has(.yt-core-attributed-string:has-text(/^Shorts$/i))
! Jul 12, 2025 https://www.youtube.com/ www.youtube.com##ytd-rich-section-renderer.ytd-rich-grid-renderer.style-scope:nth-of-type(2)
TIL. Definitely need to give this a go. I don’t care if it’s a creator I might otherwise be interested in, I am not interested in Shorts. And I really do not care what other people are watching.
I edited my filters into the previous message
perhaps, but you also get the occassional “Sign in to confirm that you’re not a robot” prompt if you’re not logged in.
People don’t watch YT. People watch content that’s only available on YT.
Every content from YT van be viewed from outside ,without ADS or premium account
Yes. Even creators at Nebula have YT as their main gig.
I think the point was using YT to watch YT. Not even my parents watch YouTube using YouTube anymore.
Your parents watch YT on a computer?
Rushing to backup as much stuff as I can, yes.
Use a scraper
