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    Yeah, it turns out a lot of recent changes in education (see Lucy Calkins, common core, etc) have actually been pretty hugely detrimental. Education is pretty fraught with fraudsters who sell school administrators these programs that aren’t backed by any kind of research, and turn out to not work at all.

    The places that have avoided this the best are the Alabama’s and Mississippi’s of the US who, by stint of being hyper conservative, have basically said, “Fancy new types of city learnin’? No thanks. If it was good enough for my great grandpappy, it’s good enough for my kids.”

    Turns out, this actually ended up being a really good thing, as a lot of that new stuff turns out to be straight fraud that’s ruined an entire generation of young people.

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      And yet the states with the highest scores are blue states that teach common core, and Alabama is consistently in the lowest 10-15 states.

      The metric referenced in OPs meme is improvement, not raw scores. Alabama improved from really bad to below average. They’re not scoring better than NY or CA.

      Alabama’s 8th grade math scores are literally 50th of the 50 states. The only lower grades are DC and PR.

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        I love how disinformation is getting more upvotes than your fact filled response.

        Edit: I posted this when you had fewer upvotes than the parent comment

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            When I hear someone who has something to say about common core, I just ask “why can’t they just teach” and then I describe common core without telling them its common core. 100% will tell you that what you described is the right way cause it just makes sense and the other ways are just stupid and pointlessly difficult.

            Then you get to tell them that’s common core, and the looks of confusion and mental distress you get to watch are just amazing. And then before they have time to rally up their indignation about some bullshit thing they saw about kids getting the right answer but being marked wrong, you point out that all the uproar is becoming a few people who like to do math the stupid way are upset that they taught the kids to do it the stupid way, but the elementary school homework wasn’t about getting the right answer, it was about learning how to do it the easy way and not the hard way, so they got marked wrong for doing the homework wrong.

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      In a normal reality, that’s what conservatism should be, a counterweight to the excesses of experimentation/reform/revolution. In our reality, slow clock, once in 10 years

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      If you work in procurement or education finance you see this so clearly.

      Schools with a dozen different reading or math programs sitting in a closet with all their consumables. They sit their because someone high up in the district got sold it, but it doesn’t work so they don’t get used. You go back to your desk and out of curiosity look up some of the contracts and realize you were just looking at a closet full of a quarter million dollars worth of paper crap.

      This doesn’t even get into the fact that most clerks pay their own school bills. So things like fake ink invoices get certified all of the time.

      Stealing from schools is way, way too easy.

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      huh, common core is a fraud. who knew? /s

      I have a friend who started teaching in a district that had just picked up CC practices. they attended a seminar and came back absolutely brainwashed and just kept praising it and vomiting the same bullshit at the seminar.

      funny thing, the district they worked in continued to have the lowest scores even after they went all in on CC. worry not, all the surrounding districts also started to use CC and all their scores also stagnated or dropped.

      personally I believe CC was part of a plan similar to that of project 2025 and was integral in ensuring the general voting populace was dumb and gullible.

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        No Child Left Behind was a Bush 2 idea, I’m assuming cc stems from that. Probably a framework for right wing bullshit like great replacement theory