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      Andrew Tate is around women all the time. He actively seeks their company even. That’s not what someone who “hates all women” would do. That’s why I’m saying that hate isn’t probably the best term here. You’re talking about something else.

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        Did slave owners love blacks ? I mean they kept buying them. They had them make their food. Wash clothes. They were always around the house.

        Surely if they surrounded themselves with black people that must mean they don’t hate them or see them as lower than themselves.

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          Well, first of all, it’s not a binary choice between love and hate and secondly, I don’t think most slave owners hated black people. They saw them as inferior or sub-human but that’s a different thing. Almost like how we treat animals at factory farms. We don’t do that because we hate cows, pigs and chickens.

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            Did you know that after slavery was abolished in the U.S, there were many laws passed to ban blacks from using the same water fountains. Restaurants. Bathrooms and schools.

            Because many whites thought that blacks were “dirty” and didn’t want them to touch the same things that they had to touch.

            Do you think that freeing blacks in the U.S caused many whites to suddenly hate them or isn’t it more likely that hate was always there it just became more public?

            I think you might find the Standford prison experiment of interest.

            It’s a flawed experiment, but it does illustrate how looking down at another human is a form of hate.

            Because ultimately the hostile person believes the victim to have caused their place in life.

            They choose to be a pathetic. And lowly.

            Humans are not evaluated the same as animals. People are racist against other humans. Or hate them for their nationality.

            People don’t have those beliefs about animals.

            We are social creatures. We value social rules and social interactions with humans. And a lot of that is exclusive to other humans. We don’t extend those interactions to other animals.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_psychology

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        No, I don’t think I am. He doesn’t like women. He likes the status they give with other men. He likes their vaginas to fuck. But he doesn’t like women.

        Here’s a simple example to show my point. If you like somebody, you would spend your time doing the activities they like to do, do you can be with them and learn more about them. Fair?

        Do you think Andrew Tate would sit and watch the entire series of Gilmore girls with someone if it wasn’t just to fuck them?