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    That’s why I always thought it weird when these famous US celebs did these ancestry checks and were so amazed that one of their ancestors was a slave owner or something

    Yeah, I’m sure most people will have ancestors that owned slaves. That doesn’t say anything about you, or me though

    Sins of the father and stuff like that

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    Ancestry is weird. You’ve got 2 parents, 4 grandparents and so on. Do the math and you’ll have a billion ancestors in like 40 generations. Obviously, we can’t all have a billion unique ancestors, so mathematically there must be plenty of people in my family tree that are also in yours. No matter the geographic spread or race nonsense.

    However it’s also true that you’ve got 50% of your parents DNA, ~25% grandparents and so on. Which means eventually, you’ll have an ancestor that you share no genetic markers with. It’s usually about generation 12 where this happens.

    So it’s true that we’re all related and it’s also true that your not related to your 12th great grandfather.

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      As you get back more than 12 generations it is highly likely the same person appears more than once in your family tree.

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          3 generations for rednecks… Cousin marriage is often legal and not unheard of, though most people try to avoid such close relatives. By 3rd cousins - 5 generations - you often don’t even know everyone and so it wouldn’t be a surprise if you don’t even know you are so closely related until long after you have kids. Generally there is enough separation that this isn’t a genetic issue. Even first cousins don’t typically share enough genes for issues to be much more common than otherwise. (kids of brothers-sister pairs often have genetic issues).

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        Even that changes. My surname is what it is because English doesn’t have the same accents of the old German script (which isn’t used in Germany anymore), and so the spelling changed. Then over time how we pronounce it has changed to match the spelling.

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          Mine also changed a few generations ago. Not drastically, but still.

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    I’d have to go all the way back to my brother. The stupid sumbitch voted for trump!

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    Step one: Dad’s a MAGA cultist, alcoholic (i can tell you how an interlock device works), who also builds ghost guns in his garage.

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          Just try and make sure those ghost guns are in good hands before you do. Be a shame to waste perfectly good antiMAGA gear that MAGA wasted their time and money stockpiling.

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            … No I mean… I live on the other side of the country now, my family probably thinks I am dead.

            That was years ago now.

            … my user name is an allusion to a ghost for multiple reasons, that’s one of them.

            The last time I talked with him, he quite literally spent 25 minutes trying to explain to me that Tom Hanks’s son is part of a cult of pedophile child rapist blood drinkers… and then proceeded to segue from that into ‘well hey, lemme show you this ar-10 with no serial stamp on the reciever that I’m working on!’

            Full on Q Anon nutcase. Lifelong Rush Limbaugh/Fox News fan. Would routinely tell me I have no idea what I’m talking about in… fields that I have degrees in, lines of work that I have near a decade of experience in.

            That was the last time I wore a mask and pretended any of his completely insane behavior was safe to be around.

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              Sounds similar to my relationship. I have no clue where they reside now or if they’re even still alive, and would be disappointed to find out they were so I never look. Also on the Rush/QAnon train, and intensely evangelical to boot. Which is the great irony of the “Hollywood blood drinking pedo cult” conspiracy, since their God knocked up a teenager and they drink blood symbolically every weekend to celebrate his torture-kill. Every accusation is a confession.

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                They’re literally perfect hypocrites… its actually insane.

                … sorry you’re in a similar situation, but also, good fucking riddance.

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    Yeah, most people don’t have to go that far back at all.

    Sometimes I’m pretty sure I don’t even have to look at my family, I can just look in the mirror.

    Anyways, that’s enough self loathing for the next 10 seconds, enjoy your shower and your thoughts.

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    In the span of 30 minutes i learned i had an ancestor who lived to be 104 and was a civil war veteran. He left his home in Alabama to join when he was 16. I then learned her fought for the union.

    To find the real shitty people you’ve got to go back on the other side of the family to the conquistadors in California.

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    Based on my knowledge of a lack of family wealth, I am fairly certain it’s mostly petty theft and prostitution.

    Which is way better than , for instance, slave owner, or being one of those factory owners that locks employees in so they die in fires.

    There are comforts in knowing I come from a long line of poverty. At least none of us were the worst of the worst.

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    3 generations back was… Vernon. The farm family he came from had tons of kids. Just the boys had a rhyme to remember them all. There was Ed, and Ted, and leather head, and Jim, and John, and Walt, and Vernon. But Vernon was a crook, so after you said his name you spit the juice from your tobacco chew to get his bad name out of your mouth.