• stoy@lemmy.zip
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    4 hours ago

    What it has become kind of implies some recent change from a historical version of Israel which wasn’t genocidal. There were some very early idealistic views of Zionism in the 1940s, but it has pretty much always been a fascistic ethnostate. Most people just haven’t been aware until recently.

    That is a perfectly fair point, I used the word “become” as I wasn’t completely sure on how the behavior developed or if it had been part of Israel from the start.

    I can also see the logic of the jewish perspective after the holocaust, as a people they were hunted and exterminated across Europe, and wanted a country of their own to feel safe and secure.

    However, that doesn’t give them the right to hunt and exterminate another people, which is where Israel lost the plot.

    • bearboiblake [he/him]@pawb.social
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      4 hours ago

      Zionism actually predates the Holocaust by decades, though of course the aftermath of the Holocaust absolutely brought it to reality.

      I understand the idealistic vision of Zionism, but the reality was obviously very different. Israel started existence by displacing people who were already living in a place. Colonial settlers pushing people out of their homes, violently, massacring them, poisoning wells and more - an act of ethnic cleansing known as the Nakba.