Yes, Israel is committing a genocide and should be dissolved, but Israel does not control the United States. Israel is a colonialist project supported primarily by the US. The US provides political, economic, material and military support to Israel because Israel is a puppet state of the American Empire. Yes, Israel has a very powerful political lobby in the US, but there is plenty of support from US evangelicals, zionists, and fascists, all of whom have very strong reasons to support Israel.

A lot of what you say is right, but you’re still missing the bigger picture. The goals of the USA and the goals of Israel *ARE THE SAME GOALS. * Your leaders have been lying to you about their true values. Only Trump has been telling everyone the truth about what he’s doing, every other president in the past has been smart enough to say it’s for some lofty higher goal, but Trump just says the quiet parts out loud.

The goals are Christo-fascism in the USA, Judeo-fascism in Israel, Russo-fascism in Russia.

They’re all working together as part of the same agenda. Israel hasn’t corrupted the US, the US was the corrupt one to begin with, and it spawned Israel, alongside the UK, to begin another colonialist project in the middle east.

We can’t ignore the threats from within the USA and focus fully on Israel, we’d be fighting in the dark. The entire system needs to be dismantled because it’s corrupt from the bottom up.

It’s all good, I’m totally with you, agree with everything you wrote. Sorry for snapping at you, I am also very frustrated with the constant conflation of zionism/Israel with Jewish people, and the whole “Israel controls the US!!!” stuff is so frustrating because it’s so obvious that they’re both just aligned sharing a common goal it barely matters which is in control of the other really, they’re both terrible, doing terrible things, in support of each other.

When Donald Trump is put on trial, the stenographers do not need to comprehend what he’s trying to say as long as they can make out the sounds he is making - and if anything is unclear, he will be asked to repeat it.

I doubt it’ll matter much at his trial, but he is of course free to say whatever he wants before a jury deliberates on their verdict. I’m sure he’ll not give them much to think about.

Nah, Ptolemy was in on it bro. The conspiracy runs deep.

• United States
• Great Britain
• Democratic People’s Republic of Korea

Many such cases

Sorry for being unclear, not the original post, but the original comment that started this thread:

Js are the real owners of the USA

Obviously they removed a couple of letters there to try and sidestep censorship but the meaning is clear. Comments like this are extremely prolific and regularly well received on many online platforms.

That’s not what I’m saying, hear me out here. Fuck Israel, it should 100% be dissolved and their leaders should be tried for crimes against humanity and executed.

But you gotta realize you are replying to a thread which literally blames all jews. Not zionists, not even israeli jews, just all jews. We are on the precipice of repeating the events of the 20th century and while your anger is valid it is enabling it.

Israel does not control the US. It is 100% true that Israel has a powerful lobby and many in the ruling class have ties to Israel, but geopolitically speaking, Israel furthers the foreign policy interests of the United States, not the other way around.

Israel exists to ensure the middle east remains destabilized and ripe for colonial extractive interests. That’s why the US sends Israel so much aid and weapons, because Israel is a weapon of US imperialism.

The ruling class own and control the entire world. Billionares and C-suite corporate executives. Some of them are jewish, many are not. The ruling class use the USA and Israel as tools in their game of global hegemony. They want you to blame everything on the Jews because that distracts you from the truth, that capitalism exploits us all. Please wake up.

You rightly don’t care but the misinformation that Israel controls the US is extremely dangerous and will lead to terrible antisemitic atrocities if it is allowed to take root.

Don’t spread this misinformation. Israel is a puppet state of the US, not the other way around. It’s tempting to want to blame a foreign nation for the terrible crimes we see in Israel and in the US but unfortunately it all comes back to the US and the UK.

we’ve been running on an arrogant and ignorant high for decades

Only decades? I’d go back centuries.

We aren’t coming back from this as a species

I disagree. I still believe in us. We are the most co-operative animal on the planet. We can do better. We need to abolish capitalism and other forms of coercive power, but once we have done that, I genuinely believe that the human race can be an incredible force for good.

“Commonwealth of Independent States”, basically ex-soviet union countries which remain politically aligned with the Russian Federation

a new wave of interest among conservative Europeans in relocating with their families to the CIS countries

If only we could be so lucky.

Corporations control and manipulate us through algorithms. No reform can fix that. Abolishing capitalism is the only way we can improve our situation.

Yet more censorship and authoritarian control of the internet. There is no evidence showing a causative link between mental health issues and social media use among children. You have been lied to.

what’s your opinion on Trump’s regime change in Venezuela?

Ahh sorry, my bad, my inattentive commenting was so bad it got you to dox yourself

Well, the USSR does have the high score when it comes to killing fascists, to be fair.

dude both cuba and venezuela got massive trade embargos. that’s what caused issues, not because cubans and venezuelans don’t give a shit about their communities, come on man you gotta do some more reading or something