Would be stupid for him to fall for it. Now they give him a better place, next day they give him to the US. Not to mention the whole CIA thing. Russia or even better China are the only countries he can feel relatively safe.
The sad truth is we said exactly the same thing during Trump’s first mandate. Granted it was not as bad as this time, but on a general principle: “we know someone like Trump can happen once, so we need to assume it will happen again!”. And… as soon as Biden started talking, the EU went back under a cozy mama-wing, easy solution.
This time might be different… or not. Far right parties are getting stronger in France, Germany, already in power in Italy. They all somewhat allied with Trump and his goons. All the effort made to render the EU sovereign could be discarded just as quickly as they were put in place. Imagine Trump’s successort is someone smart enough to understand (or rather not too stupid to not understand…) the benefit of US military supremacy and protection, and you may see some EU govs happily reduce their military spending again: the US promised to have their back!
At this stage, I am less pessimistic than I am careful: the direction is somewhat correct. We (the people) need to make sure it stays that way.
But for Snowden’s case: I wouldn’t come back either. The minute he sets land in Europe, he becomes a bargaining chip in sode negotiations with the US! He could try his chances in Spain, until the next election, then it’s uncertainty all over again.
That is something that worries me. You get these flee the us threads and its like. Fight em here or over there but there is no escaping the planet. While here we have some of the most agregious examples what I see in europe, canada, and australia is like just a few steps back in some cases. And they play off the various locations. fox news came out of australia and there was a media thing that arose from canada to. A lot of this came out of putin though so can’t say russia is such a great location.
I am plenty critical of the US regime and of Europe too. Unlike you I don’t glorify the Russian dictatorship however, that is currently waging a bloody war of conquest, attempting the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine, while making the surveillance state in Russia worse by the day, with heavy censorship, persecuting any kind of independent protest, persecuting any organisation not approved by the regime and now making even consumption of non approved news sources a crime. Also
attempting to push a state controlled super app to surveil every single step of every single person.
Is everything fine in the EU? Absolutely not but show me what is worse in terms if civil liberties, compared to Russia.
Talking to me about grey areas while telling me that VdL is worse than Putin.
You did by claiming "VdL
's EU"is somehow worse than Russia. That is utterly absurd. It wrongly implies that the EU is somehow owned by VdL like Russia is owned by Putin. Unsurprisingly you did not even specify in which way exactly things are worse in the EU.
I think about him regularly. You know now would be a good time for europe to get him to a better place.
Would be stupid for him to fall for it. Now they give him a better place, next day they give him to the US. Not to mention the whole CIA thing. Russia or even better China are the only countries he can feel relatively safe.
would be stupid for europe to continue a cozy relationship with the us at this point. The breakup has already started.
The sad truth is we said exactly the same thing during Trump’s first mandate. Granted it was not as bad as this time, but on a general principle: “we know someone like Trump can happen once, so we need to assume it will happen again!”. And… as soon as Biden started talking, the EU went back under a cozy mama-wing, easy solution.
This time might be different… or not. Far right parties are getting stronger in France, Germany, already in power in Italy. They all somewhat allied with Trump and his goons. All the effort made to render the EU sovereign could be discarded just as quickly as they were put in place. Imagine Trump’s successort is someone smart enough to understand (or rather not too stupid to not understand…) the benefit of US military supremacy and protection, and you may see some EU govs happily reduce their military spending again: the US promised to have their back!
At this stage, I am less pessimistic than I am careful: the direction is somewhat correct. We (the people) need to make sure it stays that way.
But for Snowden’s case: I wouldn’t come back either. The minute he sets land in Europe, he becomes a bargaining chip in sode negotiations with the US! He could try his chances in Spain, until the next election, then it’s uncertainty all over again.
That is something that worries me. You get these flee the us threads and its like. Fight em here or over there but there is no escaping the planet. While here we have some of the most agregious examples what I see in europe, canada, and australia is like just a few steps back in some cases. And they play off the various locations. fox news came out of australia and there was a media thing that arose from canada to. A lot of this came out of putin though so can’t say russia is such a great location.
Von der Leyen’s EU?
I’d stay in Russia.
Good comrade, move to your blood soaked imperialist totalitarian utopia that is modern day Russia. No one is stopping you.
OH right, i forgot, Russia bad, US good… EU good too.
Thumps chest.
That’s the right answer, right? No grey areas whatsoever, right? Dumbass.
Yes comrade, Russia good! Thumps chest.
I am plenty critical of the US regime and of Europe too. Unlike you I don’t glorify the Russian dictatorship however, that is currently waging a bloody war of conquest, attempting the ethnic cleansing of Ukraine, while making the surveillance state in Russia worse by the day, with heavy censorship, persecuting any kind of independent protest, persecuting any organisation not approved by the regime and now making even consumption of non approved news sources a crime. Also attempting to push a state controlled super app to surveil every single step of every single person.
Is everything fine in the EU? Absolutely not but show me what is worse in terms if civil liberties, compared to Russia.
Talking to me about grey areas while telling me that VdL is worse than Putin.
Neither do i. Bye.
You did by claiming "VdL 's EU"is somehow worse than Russia. That is utterly absurd. It wrongly implies that the EU is somehow owned by VdL like Russia is owned by Putin. Unsurprisingly you did not even specify in which way exactly things are worse in the EU.