• marcos@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I wonder if it’s one of those cases of military refusing to follow illegal orders.

  • apparia@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 hours ago

    Everyone is reporting on these ships making it through the strait which is still under Iranian control. Few seem to mention the part in the Gulf of Oman where the US is actually implementing its blockade. The poster child, Rich Starry, mentioned in the article, did this a few hours after clearing the strait, still far from the Arabian Sea:

    Marine tracker timelapse showing RICH STARRY travelling southeast out of the Strait of Hormuz, halting and showing stale data for around 3.5 hours, and then returning back the way it came at speed.

    That sure doesn’t look like a ship breaching a blockade without incident.

    It’s too early to say how this will play out on a larger scale but for these specific ships a lot of reporting is really fucking misleading at the moment.

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      7 hours ago

      So you think a ship that was moving at maybe 5 knots/hr instantly turned around and in less than 30 minutes accelerated past 50 knots/hr?

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        I don’t know where you’re getting any of that from. It was travelling at 8 knots before and after the turnaround. The bit in the animation where it slows and drifts almost due south is actually marinetraffic not having AIS data for that period so it just interpolates between the two known positions. Maybe I should have made that clearer.

        That turnaround period is also close to 3.5 hours, not 30 minutes.

        According to the same data the ship is now pretty close to the Strait of Hormuz that it passed through yesterday, it seems pretty clear it did not get where it wanted to go.

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        7 hours ago

        The fact that you are measuring speed in knots per hour invalidates your point.

        Please use a correct measurement, and try again.

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            2 hours ago

            I find that reasonably unlikely, unless it is a naval ship. I don’t think cargo ships go that fast unless empty, and highly motivated. Possibly not even then.

            Do we have a reliable source for this data?

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              4 hours ago

              I’m being accurate. “Knots” is “nautical miles per hour,” as you correctly described.

              • marcos@lemmy.world
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                4 hours ago

                If we are being really pedantic. Knots is a measure of distance, and the fact that people have been using that wrong for several centuries does not turn a rope tied at one point into a time-changing object.

          • NoblePutty@sh.itjust.works
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            6 hours ago

            I think there point is that knots is not a measurement of distance over time so you can’t technically travel in knots per hour.

  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Look what Iran can do that Trump can’t! Actually, so far everything is Iran doing things Trump can’t, like win a war or stop a boat.