Few will click through, so I’ll copy the part where he actually talked about child pornography below. First of all, both times the term “gatekeeping” was used in that link were specifically connected to “censoring political opponents”. He was not talking about pornography. He was talking about censorship.
Bringing up pornography is always the bludgeon of anti-free-speech people. If I say, “People should have the freedom to express themselves,” some idiot will inevitably say, “This evil person said that everybody should be allowed to make child porn!” This sort of rhetoric is the death of thinking.
Asked if he realised “what [he was] defending” - which is essentially Grok being used to generate non-consensual pornographic or sexually explicit images of women and girls and child sexual abuse material (CSAM) - Sweeney said: “I defend open platforms, free speech, and consistent application of the rule of law. The bad stuff people do with AI, I do not defend, but I staunchly oppose the wrongdoing of a few from being used as a pretense to undermine the freedoms of all”
When challenged and given examples of Grok generating “CSAM content and doxxing people’s IP address”, he replied: "1) That is bad. 2) Every significant AI has instances of this. 3) Every significant AI company makes their best efforts to stop it. 4) All are imperfect.
I know you’re not saying it to disagree with me, but I would like to clarify that I didn’t think he was factually completely right. I honestly don’t even think his argument is necessarily sound. The thing I do like is that he was arguing from good fundamentals.
My reason for making the first comment is that I have a strong belief that we should argue against things that people actually say and do, like you’re doing bringing up Elon’s actions. Yours is a great example of an honest argument.
And I dislike all of these straw men that fly around all the time.
Idk, according to the source below your comment, you are absolutely misrepresenting what they said. They weren’t even talking about CSAM when they said that. I feel like there are so many things to criticize him for that you don’t need to outright lie.
Reminder: Epic CEO Tim Sweeney has defended child pornography, saying that stopping it is “gatekeeping”.
ITT: pedo defenders
Man, you really need to have something to back it up when you say shit like this; it’s just good practice. This is the quote.
Few will click through, so I’ll copy the part where he actually talked about child pornography below. First of all, both times the term “gatekeeping” was used in that link were specifically connected to “censoring political opponents”. He was not talking about pornography. He was talking about censorship.
Bringing up pornography is always the bludgeon of anti-free-speech people. If I say, “People should have the freedom to express themselves,” some idiot will inevitably say, “This evil person said that everybody should be allowed to make child porn!” This sort of rhetoric is the death of thinking.
Someone should have told him that Elon “stopped” it by trying to make money from it.
I know you’re not saying it to disagree with me, but I would like to clarify that I didn’t think he was factually completely right. I honestly don’t even think his argument is necessarily sound. The thing I do like is that he was arguing from good fundamentals.
My reason for making the first comment is that I have a strong belief that we should argue against things that people actually say and do, like you’re doing bringing up Elon’s actions. Yours is a great example of an honest argument.
And I dislike all of these straw men that fly around all the time.
Idk, according to the source below your comment, you are absolutely misrepresenting what they said. They weren’t even talking about CSAM when they said that. I feel like there are so many things to criticize him for that you don’t need to outright lie.