Russia does not exactly “help” Iran, they back-stabbed them on several occasions. A more accurate description would be that Russia supports Iran to the extent that it serves its own agenda.
“Trusts” -> “Is owned by.”
A headline like that really doesn’t mean anything. The commander-in-chief lives in his little bubble with his dementia and his narcissism. Then people in the military have their own information, most of which is presumably more accurate than the big boss’s brain.
Trying to speculate about what Donald believes or knows is an exercise in futility because he’s a strong narcissist who’s getting dementia. He believes in whatever he believes at that exact moment and it has nothing to do with the past or the future or reality, and if you haven’t been around people like that, it’s hard to understand, but you have to stop expecting them to have a normal brain. Logic doesn’t matter. Facts don’t matter. Reason doesn’t apply.
The simplest explanation is that the US in not an ally of Ukraine (or Europe).
Also because it’s obvious and saying it only fans more flames for WWIII. We’re having a hard enough time preventing it with Israel actively trying to derail any attempts at peace. It took long enough to get Trump even pushing in that direction. It will take a miracle for him to not get distracted. The last thing we need is to make this an open contest between world powers and double down on this mess.
But Zelenski doesn’t care. He’ll fan whatever flames if it help him with his conflict. This is the problem with having all these proxy countries associated with you. They don’t always have your exact same strategic priorities or alignment with your goals. Our goal should be to get the US out of war. And both of these countries (Ukraine and Israel) want us in.
Our goal should be to get the US out of war.
The current war of aggression against Iran, sure. But not avoiding war unconditionally, no. The US could, for example, stay out of war by selling out Ukraine and rewarding Russian imperialism. But that would mean creating a precedent that the US capitulates and sells out its allies anytime someone else rattles their sabre. That’s a path that doesn’t lead to peace. It leads to servitude, and to rewarding whoever’s the most flagrant warmonger.
But Zelenski doesn’t care. He’ll fan whatever flames if it help him with his conflict.
The desired end state of that conflict, for Ukraine, is Russians out of Ukraine and no more attacks against civilians and civilian infrastructure. At that point, no more conflict. But ending it now on unfacorable terms for Ukraine means we’ll get a refugee crisis, the systematic destruction of Ukrainian national identity, massacres, and further Russian aggression as Putin turns his attention to the Baltics or Poland. Neither is a good choice. But one is far less bad than the other.
It was an ally before the Trump came.
I’m not so sure the US was a proper ally of Europe (there has long been overt talk in the US about Europe as a competitor and a lot of effort from US sources to try and weaken the EU with for example funding campaigning for Brexit) but I do believe that before Trump the US was an ally of Ukraine.
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Image misses hexbear instance also. And lemmygrad(but I am not sure if world instance communicates with it).
the triad are mostly defederated with the authotarian instances from worlds. worlds just has a wierd bipolar stance on israel.
Are these just straight up fucking propaganda? I’ve hated them since I arrived here… A lot of the people on them are fucking nuts.
Lemmygrad - yes. Hexbear and ml - yes, but diluted with some regular content to appear normal and gather ordinary unsuspecting souls into their instance.
hexbear/.ml infiltrated political memes, it was much more neutral until few months ago.
Yeah, I can imagine. Amount of bigotry in these instances is unbelievable.
It’s q-anon but they let in gay people. It presents a comforting dualistic worldview, supported by shadowy, unfalsifiable conspiracies. There’s elements of flat Earth theory in there too, in that it’s blatently contrary to what everyone else sees/thinks in a way that allows them to feel very clever for seeing through the illusion.
Both are .world-defederated.
Aha, this explains a lot, actually. It is a bit weird experience to be on a neutral instance, that federates all others(or most of them), and then see defederation on other instances.
Don’t see any, never do, but always complaints about .ml’s. Such a weird thing to do. It’s different servers, it’s like complaining about Facebook bots. Just leave and ignore them. Or go to their servers and fight them there.
Users from there can post and comment here. They often show up and try to gaslight everyone that Russia is good, Ukraine is bad and that communism + USSR were the best creations of humanity.
You may not see them if you have blocked their instance.
Putin’s closer to a form of Russian fascism than to resembling the USSR. The only things he approves of from the USSR are the territorial grabs and Stalin’s authoritarian repression and cult of personality. Russia is an oligarchic kleptocracy with some of the worst inequality in the world. Nothing socialist about it.
If only russians have understood it…
Half a day later, one .ml comment. I see what you mean but that’s hardly a storm. I suggest you block them in stead of getting worked up in advance, why let them live in your head when the actual war warrants more of your attention?
They don’t storm this instance so active, since they are unwelcome here. + there are internet restrictions in Russia, what means that a part of .ml users has physical obstacles to spam here.
Trump knows Russia is helping Iran, but there’s nothing he can do to stop it.
Trump could absolutely stop it, if he wanted to. Just send a few hundred tomahawk missiles as military aid to Ukraine. Then tell Russia that if Russia does not stop, the US will send more.
Yes, but Putin might do more to help Iran.
Yeah, sure, fighting a second war while one’s a stalemate will really improve Russia’s chances.
Like what? Putin needs his missiles himself.
He doesn’t want to disappoint his daddy.
I have seen this topic before and I don’t understand what the importance of the issue is. Isn’t the USA sharing intelligence with Ukraine? I suppose that Russia sharing information with Iran is what is expected in the situation and what could anyone do to prevent it?
what could anyone do to prevent it?
Just send a few hundred tomahawk missiles as military aid to Ukraine. Then tell Russia that if Russia does not stop, the US will send more.
The US is already sending a large amount of military material to Ukraine and if it sent something more forceful to pressure Russia, what Russia would do is send long-range missiles to Iran and then what? Do you keep climbing waiting for someone to do the chicken before you get to the nuclear thing?
The US is already sending a large amount of military material to Ukraine
No it isn’t. Trump stopped all new aid.
Only what Europe paid for is being sent.
You’re thinking morality when he’s talking strategy.
I still don’t understand the importance, what change in strategy should the United States make knowing this? does they need to confirm it? Because for me it is obvious that Russia shares information with Iran, it was obvious that it was going to happen before starting the war and there is nothing at any level that the USA can do beyond saying, oh boy, what bad luck is mine
Trump is a friend of Putin. Rather a submissive. So it is weird that Russia helps Iran but Trump doesn’t react to this.
So it is weird that Russia helps Iran but Trump doesn’t react to this.
It’s not weird at all. Trump will never do anything to oppose Putin besides talk. And talk is cheap, especially when it’s coming from Trump.
I think it’s more like a boss / employee relationship.
Based on Trump’s body language in Helsinki, it’s extreme dom/sub.
Shouldnt he be happy that Iran is taking Russian resources away from the war?
Trump’s war in Iran diverted weapons away from Ukraine (which were already bought and paid for by Europe), to be used in Iran. It also increased the global price of oil and gas, which benefits Russia because they can now sell their oil at that higher price.
it appears that russia can now make thier own shahed drones now, and been giving iran some.
No, Putin is sitting on a large pile of “pee tapes” and US dances when it’s told to.
Also sitting on a large pile of cash from all the oil money they made back with sky high oil prices.
I’m sure it’s not pee, but P for something worse.
Both is also possible…
He can release the pee tapes. No one cares. No one will prosecute Trump. No one will stop voting for him.
I think it’s more complicated than that. No one in the world besides Ukraine wants to see a Russian/US war…
Even if acknowledged, the US is not going to go to war with Russia. The US could sanction Russia, though.
Or kinetic sanctions - resume aid to Ukraine. Just give more stuff for Ukraine to shoot into Russia. Let Russia learn its lesson real fast.
The US did sanction Russia. Trump is undermining those sanctions.
Yup - and Trump can un-undermine those sanctions.
Zelensky trying hard to get some attention back. Fuck him for supporting Israel.
Wrong instance for such loud words, Russian lower. He is not trying to get attention back to him, he gathers attention to the fact that Trump supports Russia. And in the same time Trump is against Iran, which is a friend of Russia. Makes no sense. Finally, fuck Putin for invading Ukraine and doing terroristic actions like killing civilians. Russians are no better than Zionists and Nazi.
Makes no sense
it’s like you guys are almost there.
Said the guy from the ml instance…
so we devolved to dumb tribalism already?
