• spacesatan@leminal.space
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    I know you guys really love your twee little catchphrase but how did he chicken out when his demands were met? Iran are the ones who folded, at least for now.

    **oh nevermind, Iran is saying he agreed to their 10 point plan. If that’s true then lmao, the whole civilization ending thing was probably staged to let him save some face.

    ***if it’s not in reference specifically to today’s deadline to open the strait then the subtext of saying TACO here is that you’re calling him a coward for not continuing the war. weird take but ok.

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      13 hours ago

      when his demands were met?

      were they?

      Iran did not give up its uranium, nor was there regime change. The only thing he got was getting the strait open, but that was never a problem before the war he started.

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        I assumed they were saying he chickened out of today’s deadline to open the strait. Which doesn’t make sense because Iran agreed to that specific demand. I did not consider that maybe they were calling him a coward for not doubling down and continuing the war.

        Sure I guess you can call him a coward for not doubling down and not technically be wrong. Wouldn’t occur to me to do that though.

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      14 hours ago

      Did Iran fold? They are firing missles at Israel, like right this moment

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        The demand was open the strait or get bombed, they agreed to open the strait as a condition of the ceasefire.

        This is like getting mugged, handing over your wallet, and then saying ‘hah, I knew you were too much of a coward to stab me.’

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          Do you remember why the strait was closed in the first place.

          This is like knocking over someone’s sand castle, getting your ass beat for it, they agree to stop if you rebuild the sand castle, you do and declare victory

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            Sorry I thought “trump is a coward for not doubling down and doing a ground invasion” was too stupid of a position to take. I assumed they were saying he chickened out of today’s deadline to open the strait.

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              13 hours ago

              It is, the right position is he should have never started it the first place. Now he’ll scream victory and leave. Only costed millions, if not billions, of dollars and thousands of lives. Such success

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                    Infrastructure repair around the gulf, hundred billion range, more if bombing continues.

                    A few trillion in economic damages around the world probably.

                    Reputational damages to the USA resulting in less trade, borrowing costs, etc. is up to a trillion per year in the coming years.

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            Ok, it’ll make sense to say XD TACO if they reneg and Trump doesn’t follow through. But they’ve agreed to open the strait or there is no ceasefire agreement.

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              I’ll bite, where is them agreeing to open the strait? I’m not taking trumps word here.

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                13 hours ago

                consider at least reading the headline of the post you’re commenting on

                *“agrees” heavily implies two parties. CNN is not such a clickbait rag that they would have framed it like that with a looming deadline less than 2 hours away if it was just trump saying some shit unilaterally.

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                  The title does not say Iran agreed to open the strait. At the time it was only Trump saying he would accept a ceasefire after negotiating Iran’s 10 point proposal.

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      Have we actually heard anything directly from Iran about this, or just Trumps blabbering? Just because Trump said it doesn’t make it so.

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          Wasn’t the strait technically open “in coordination with Iran”? Drop them a couple mil and you get through.

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            Exactly, they were already coordinating with various countries to let ships through. I believe the number of ships has been steadily increasing. Every agreement Iran makes cements their newfound sovereignty over the strait including this ceasefire.