• opavader@lemmy.world
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    there’d certainly be no war and there’d be a peace process underway in Gaza.

    good one, boy do i have bridges to sell you. and you were calling me stupid.

    go through this Kamala Harris says Iran is ‘greatest adversary’ of US Democratic presidential candidate says preventing Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon is one of her top priorities.

    ofcourse there won’t be war. it will be a special military op with a much better propaganda and likely dragging other nato countries in it too.

    iran war was already decided by people who control both party leaders even before the election. only way it wouldn’t have happened was a 3rd party winning which can’t happen (or warren or bernie wining 2020)

    do you know both harris and pelosi worked hard to defund a california state initiative to help independent candidates get basic financial support on getting enough votes ?

    go through her political carrier, she had always been a out of touch hack who would have easily joined trump like tulsi if it meant better prospects. she had taken millions from aipac and married to a rich ultra zionist lawyer. i have no doubt she will be negotiating relelection campaign in return of turning tehran to gaza and murdering iranian kids by labelling them hamas

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      boy do I have

      Well good for you champion and good for your link. Under Harris there’d have been a shitload more vetting for a start. There is no way she’d have carried out the strikes Trump has nor allowed the Israelis to do the same.

      Harris comments do not interpret into a full scale attack. In fact there’s nothing there that says her intention isn’t to use negotiation or soft power to achieve that. What actually was going on before…well, you non voting or Trump voting clowns I guess. The rest is history.

      I’m well aware she’s an out of touch hack as you put it, but this war was started because Netanyahu has full control over the fool Americans elected again. That was why Netanyahu conspired with Hamas to start that attack in the first place…to fool Americans into not voting for Biden and by extension Harris. To fool them into not voting, plus start the holy war he’s wanted to start for decades.

      You were all played, and easily too. All it took was some great espionage thanks to Epstein and knowledge that a massive portion of American voters are lazy, stupid, awful people and easily played. That you continue go in with your view that she would have been as bad is childish. Well it’s a fart sniffing exercise as we know, but anyway. Yeah, sure, she’ll support Israel but this wouldn’t have been happening and anyone rational knows that.

      You’ll be played again as well.

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        20 hours ago

        i don’t understand, almost all of the logic in your reply is our democracy is a farce in two party system and we need to wipe out both parties and israel to have a any hope of future. but your conclusion is no we should keep participating in it with no minimum standards else one will “lazy stupid and awful” ?

        and yes the presidential candidate who said not a single negative thing about isreal during her entire campaign and or did anything as vp to stop israel from bombing hospital tents or kids just collecting water would have done nothing different with iran other than crocodile tears once on a while for “unavoidable tragedies of war”

        fuck her and may she rot in the same hell beside biden, trump and rest of maga trash.

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          Nope, my position is their citizens keep voting in primaries for candidates who will effect change, then vote them in as reps.

          My rationale for it is the Republicans have been doing exactly that for decades and succeeding. It will work for the other side too but it will take time and commitment.

          Provided that now, because the Republicans have done this with the lunatics for so long and those lunatics know that voting is critical, they get a fair vote.

          It doesn’t matter though, no matter what’s blitheringly obvious, you won’t listen and you’ll just keep on pushing ‘you’re naive; it’s all a conspiracy and Dems are as bad as the others because they won’t change for me’

          Next, please. You’re like a conga line of piss and moan

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            you’ll just keep on pushing ‘you’re naive; it’s all a conspiracy

            yeah its conspiracy that biden shamelessly did what 90% of voter base was against and harris said she will do it again. now trump is doing what 60% his base is against.

            all the piss and moaning is done by blue maga cucks who keep posting these cringe meme like this post we are replying to. we are not asking for perfection, only that adhere to agendas your entire voter base wants. no compromise on stopping corpo parasites and genocide.

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              that Biden shamelessly did

              What? Parachute Harris in? IIRC, that was a broadly popular move.

              It does not alter my original and only genuine point though; if you and your ilk all vote, you’ll stop this. That is evidenced by the Republicans doing the same.

              now Trump is doing the same

              No, he’s doing worse, because there’s no way this would be going on Harris been elected. We all told you this would happen around the time we told you that you’d elect him again.

              all the pissing and moaning

              Is being done collectively by Americans, not just blue MAGA cucks as you put it. They’re all full of excuses, they just vary in angle. Poor reps. Can’t vote because job. Not me I didn’t vote for it. This is not what I voted for. We can’t do anything it’s rigged. Take a card.

              your entire voter base

              Not mine. Check my country. I’ll throw you a bone; I agree, I think the Democrats are dogshit, offer dogshit candidates, are beholden to outside influences and there’s rationale behind the complaints of the left. Absolutely. Fucken oath they should have backed Sanders, Warren,AOC and I’m glad Mamdani owned them because it is finally proof to the shitlibs that progressive candidates are what is needed.

              Just vote. Participate, even if it’s a non desirable candidate who at least won’t continue a petrochemical war. Until you can get the people in who will then make voting third party worthwhile by offering ranked choice as you call it, it’s counterproductive. I know, but they won’t, okay? The long route is the only way.