• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    This is fundamentally incorrect.

    West Virginia for example, almost 70% of the votes went to trump. 533,556 people to be exact. In 2024, they had 1,189,961 registered voters… Do the math, there were 656,405 people that didn’t vote for trump. Even in the reddest state in the union (by percentage of votes) trump can still lose if the people who didn’t vote for him decide to vote against him.

    You fucking say “it doesn’t matter unless you’re in a swing state” and I say “The only way your vote doesn’t matter is if you don’t fucking vote.”

    There are votes this year that can flip Congress. It’s happening now. Primaries are now. Go fucking vote for fucks sake.

    Update : the numbers are in, and at this time, 3 out of 8 people apparently don’t understand basic arithmetic.

    Another update : 5 out of 11. The ratio keeps getting worse. I weep for our teachers.

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      1 day ago

      Are you counting all the non voters as votes for the dems? That’s absurd.

      And even then you can still say if you live in a non swing blue state you should protest vote because it’s fucking genocide and endless proxy wars. The system is fundamentally broken. Leadership has long betrayed the people.

      I understand voting for the option that’s only 80% evil instead of 95% evil but if you live in an area that can make a protest vote towards the 80% evil you should still consider it

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        1 day ago

        No.

        I’m pointing out that in the absolutely most trumpy state in the union, trump still didn’t get a majority of the possible to votes. Republicans can still lose in the state the dominate the most, same goes for Democrats. If you stand around with your thumb up your ass, your head in the sand hold your vote, then you’re really just voting for the worst possible outcome.

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      2 days ago

      Insane isn’t it?

      The fact Republican voters have been so successful with these principles: vote religiously and vote R bears out the stupidity of these arguments…

      Not only that, they prove it in primaries by putting lunatics in for years too.

      The evidence is right in front. Just vote, and do it every time.

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        1 day ago

        Republicans’ candidates do what their voters want them to do.

        Democrats’ candidates only do what the genocidal centrists in the party want them to do.

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          1 day ago

          Republican candidates

          Do what they want because they know their people turn up. They’re doers, not piss and wind blowers, whether it’s good or not.

          do what the genocidal centrists…

          Yep, who are as bad as who is there, what’s going on now and would have done the same. Right.

          Not only are you easy to play by bad foreign actors you’re full of excuses after being played.

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            20 hours ago

            I voted for harris. You don’t care. The only thing you care about is that no one breathes a word against your only policy.

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              18 hours ago

              I voted for Harris

              Thank you. It was a bitter choice. They gave you no opportunity to choose a successor but as I understand it, that was because the Democrats held the seat? That said, I think you should have been allowed to choose and it should not have been Harris, who was never popular.

              you don’t care

              That’s not true. The day Hamas made that strike I knew what was behind it. I was sad not just for Palestine, which I knew would be destroyed if this played out and Americans who would be fooled by it and possibly elect Trump through non participation.

              That said, I don’t care what Americans think of me. Not when they’re doing what they are around the world and what they aren’t at home to prevent or stop it, what they elected and what they are standing for. It might be a badge tbh.

              no one breathes a word…

              It’s. Not. Mine.

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                18 hours ago

                They gave you no opportunity to choose a successor but as I understand it, that was because the Democrats held the seat?

                There is no requirement that an incumbent president must be the nominee. Centrist pro-genocide-and-nothing-else democrats sued to make sure no challenger to biden was on the ballot in all 50 states. Then biden stepped down and appointed harris. At no point were the voters asked. Anyone who voted uncommitted in the primaries was screamed at for being a traitor by people who demand affirmative support for genocide and nothing else.

                People like you.

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                  18 hours ago

                  people like you

                  No, they are not like me. That said though, there’s no requirement to hold a primary, either, right?

                  I am like Mamdani. You want me to be a shitlib, but I’m not. I’ve wanted a progressive nominated for years and was as disappointed with Harris as I was with Clinton. I knew they’d put up no one else though.

                  What I understand, though, is that a) the only way that your current system, the way it is, can be fixed is by infiltration of one of the parties, like what has happened to the Republicans. That was ground up, and it needs to be the same through the Democrats so ranked choice et al can be introduced and b) not a single Democrat, even the worst, is up there with the Epstein Coalition

                  I would have opposed that court action.

                  I’m getting tired of this though, I’m telling excuse makers who have a bit of blood on their hands just simply to vote and they’re going fucking stupid over it as they do. Kid killers. I guess that’s why you’re so pissed.

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                    18 hours ago

                    I’m telling excuse makers who have a bit of blood on their hands just simply to vote and they’re going fucking stupid over it as they do

                    You’re telling someone who voted the way you wanted despite hating the options presented that they’re a kid killer.