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VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to Leopards Ate My Face@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago

Punish the Democrats, she says

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Punish the Democrats, she says

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VetOfTheSeas@discuss.online to Leopards Ate My Face@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 days ago
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    Harris saw a 6M vote undercount relative to Biden. You can argue all the reasons why, but you can’t deny Democrats would have won if they’d been as popular in 2020 as they were in 2024.

    It’s bizarre to see people insist this collapse in support has nothing to do with the policies of the party people stopped liking.

    In the same vein, there’s a real hard November coming for the GOP this year. Their incompetence is going to cost them.

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      That’s just one big problem with your take.

      Except for being weak on Gaza, all of the democrats’ other policies were actually more popular and winning.

      The problem is media lied and said their accomplishments belonged to Trump and that Trump’s failures belonged to them. He claimed he would deliver on the economy when his plan was to ruin it.

      It’s bizarre to see people decide that the policies were unpopular when they always won as long as you removed the name from them. People wanted what democrats promised but trusted Trump would be the one who could deliver on the promises. That was all down due to lies and propaganda.

      The big error made by Democrats is falling behind on outreach, and letting the corporate wing set the tone (fucking political consultants pushing them to “play nice”), all the other bullshit like telling them “they should’ve focused on the economy” is propaganda because the already did that and media refused to report on it

      And now Trump no longer has people who can insulate him from consequences because he made too many much too big fuckups, so now average people know he actually never were a good businessman and never could deliver. But people are still not connecting the dots and directing the blame to the people who pushed the lies.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/democrats-defined-progressive-issues/680810/

      https://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/trump-wins-while-americans-vote-for-progressive-policies/

      https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-support-progressive-policies-such-as-paid-maternity-leave-free-college.html

      https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/07/politics/democratic-positions-majority

      https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2022/12/13/progressive-issues-are-popular-issues/

      https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/insights/power-dressing-progressive-economic-policies-conservative-clothes

      https://www.forwardky.com/poll-voters-love-progressive-policies-despite-trump-win-tag-analysis/

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      Exactly. And frankly, any person who blames the voters rather than the politician is a deplorable. You have to be the biggest dumbass on Earth to think that trying to shame voters is a good electoral strategy. Kamala lost because she was a terrible candidate. Her loss is her fault. Not the voters.

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