US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth condemned for sinking Iranian ship in international waters. Indian politicians criticize US attack as cowardly and despicable.
You are asking why the outrage over this vs the school. Well, that’s a false dilemma. Nobody says the school bombing was A-OK.
You’re asserting that being in a country’s Navy makes it so that you accept the risk someone might shoot you. Well, nobody says it isn’t so. But that doesn’t make that loss of life A-OK. This is especially shocking given the brutal nature of a ship being torpedoed like that.
The United States has not declared war on Iran according to their own fucking constitution. They only make a bullshit self defense argument. But the ship was in an unrelated part of the world, in Shri Lanka, so literally unable to threaten anything. So the killing felt gratuitous, cold blooded, brutal, unnecessary. The US could have neutralized the ship in a more humane way, given them a chance to surrender, etc. Instead they chose this.
So, no, this isn’t more important than the bombing of the school, and yes it is a warship but it’s still brutal and shocking. Your scolding of people’s natural aversion to this massacre is just not helpful.
Still fails to tell why sinking a warship gets more comment than literally massacring protesters or literally bombing a school.
I was operating under the basic assumption we’re adults who agree war is evil, and people die in wars. War is never fucking “A-OK” as you describe it.
2a. War exists, war is inherently evil, because humans are humans. If you volunteer for war, and then don’t want to participate, surrender yourself to a neutral country.
WOAOWOOWWOWOW a nation didn’t actually do the political process of " I declare war"??? Grow up.
Throughout the full history of submarine warfare, warning “unarmed” ships they should surrender has resulted in submarines getting blown the fuck out of the water by “unarmed” ships.
How is this “brutal and shocking”? They could have sailed to a neutral port and surrendered to the neutral nation, as another Iranian ship just did.
Your statement that this gets more attention than killings of civilians is not as obviously true as you make it. This is the first thread on Lemmy I’ve seen for example specifically discussing the ship whereas I’ve seen multiple others discussing the school bombing. So I’m not sure I know what you’re talking about here.
About the other two, again I’m not sure where you’re getting at. You’re digging your heels on what exactly? That people should not be upset about this? My points 2 and 3 tried to describe some reasons why people might feel upset. Your point is what? “Fuck your feelings”? I mean ok, you can say that, but then what?
Your comment does multiple things at once.
You are asking why the outrage over this vs the school. Well, that’s a false dilemma. Nobody says the school bombing was A-OK.
You’re asserting that being in a country’s Navy makes it so that you accept the risk someone might shoot you. Well, nobody says it isn’t so. But that doesn’t make that loss of life A-OK. This is especially shocking given the brutal nature of a ship being torpedoed like that.
The United States has not declared war on Iran according to their own fucking constitution. They only make a bullshit self defense argument. But the ship was in an unrelated part of the world, in Shri Lanka, so literally unable to threaten anything. So the killing felt gratuitous, cold blooded, brutal, unnecessary. The US could have neutralized the ship in a more humane way, given them a chance to surrender, etc. Instead they chose this.
So, no, this isn’t more important than the bombing of the school, and yes it is a warship but it’s still brutal and shocking. Your scolding of people’s natural aversion to this massacre is just not helpful.
Your comment also does several things at once.
Still fails to tell why sinking a warship gets more comment than literally massacring protesters or literally bombing a school.
I was operating under the basic assumption we’re adults who agree war is evil, and people die in wars. War is never fucking “A-OK” as you describe it. 2a. War exists, war is inherently evil, because humans are humans. If you volunteer for war, and then don’t want to participate, surrender yourself to a neutral country.
WOAOWOOWWOWOW a nation didn’t actually do the political process of " I declare war"??? Grow up.
Throughout the full history of submarine warfare, warning “unarmed” ships they should surrender has resulted in submarines getting blown the fuck out of the water by “unarmed” ships.
How is this “brutal and shocking”? They could have sailed to a neutral port and surrendered to the neutral nation, as another Iranian ship just did.
Your statement that this gets more attention than killings of civilians is not as obviously true as you make it. This is the first thread on Lemmy I’ve seen for example specifically discussing the ship whereas I’ve seen multiple others discussing the school bombing. So I’m not sure I know what you’re talking about here.
About the other two, again I’m not sure where you’re getting at. You’re digging your heels on what exactly? That people should not be upset about this? My points 2 and 3 tried to describe some reasons why people might feel upset. Your point is what? “Fuck your feelings”? I mean ok, you can say that, but then what?