I don’t even want to talk to you and you aren’t even as unpleasant as those who support maga ideals, so your whole just talk it out has been a failure from the onset. But, if you believe maga is even easier to talk it out and change their minds then go at it.

You aren’t even doing a good job of getting non Trump supporters to agree with you.

And if you don’t see supporting someone who wants to be a dictator, wants to get rid of minorities, hires white nationalists like Hegseth, threatens Canada’s independence, bombs Venezuelan boats, and has ties to the files as not evil then what exactly is evil to you?

Because a person who endorses that type of person and only complains when they are financially affected, but were happily cheering on the policies before hand sure seem evil to me. This isn’t like some disagreement about which food is better. What they fundamentally were in support of is red flags.

How do we even know if they are actually reformed and won’t go and vote for the next Trump who they believe will be more strategic about who they hurt so the right kind of people are left unaffected?

Expressing disapproval of Trump doesn’t mean they disagree with many of the things he is doing, since he has so far been truthful on all the things he said he’d do starting with wanting to be a dictator and Project 2025. Nothing is a surprise.

Only surprise is they thought only illegals and minorities would be affected, and that’s still something they want.

If she saw the future she’d still vote for Trump. The core ideology is something she agrees with and is happy with many of the policies being carried out. She’s just not happy about the random way it is being carried out that is leading to collateral damage to groups of her kind that weren’t supposed to be affected.

You can’t even bring together people who aren’t on Trump sides, so you are failing on your messaging from the start when it comes to your big proclamation of talking it out.

She hasn’t changed. She’ll vote for the next Trump who they believe will be more surgical when it comes to hurting people they don’t like. This is her basically telling the party to reduce the collateral damage. The ideology that brought her to support them hasn’t changed.

Better fighting to keep things from getting worse and worse then handing everything over to billionaires without any resistance. And if there’s one thing politics has been consistent on is that they don’t make our dreams come true, but they can make life even worse than it was previously. They got a real talent for that.

To even come to that logic in the first place you’d have to be fine with him stating he’s going to be a dictator and be fine with his racism and ties to Epstein.

So… I don’t buy the bullshit that they didn’t vote for people to suffer. That’s the Republican talking point used to gaslight those that accuse them of being racists. Equivalent of that’s not a Nazi salute its our hearts go out to you.

Try a different audience that will fall for it. Not here.

That sounds like the typical libertarian excuse used when they aren’t amongst fellow conservatives but trying to come off as not on the side being criticized.

Better defense would be saying yeah Andy may or may not want to be part of the inner circle like Tim Cook who is bending the knee to Trump for more money even though people know he isn’t racist or against lgbtq. And sure he chose to ignore that Slater worked for the Internet Association maybe hoped people wouldn’t dig further and chose to portray Republicans as being more the party of the little guy, because he may or may not have wanted to be part of the new tech inner circle with Zuckerberg, Musk, Bezos by publicly signaling praise.

But, the company itself is not in the US so hopefully that keeps things from getting worse even though the company chose to double down making the statement again from Protons official account so it became not just a Yen statement but a Proton one before deleting everything when response wasn’t what they hoped of people joining in on the praise. So maybe they learned their lesson and will go back to focusing on proton products as opposed to political endorsements.

https://archive.ph/quYyb

Basically more than 75% of that anonymous totally not Andy Yen article is nothing but fluff going look how not racist and homophobic he is when that stuff does not matter in the least bit when billions are potentially involved as best demonstrated by Tim Cook. That article is like the golden example of identity politics with how it brings it up to shift attention away from Slater endorsement despite her history with the Internet Association infringing among privacy of consumers and Republican whitewashing as the party of the little people.

That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.

Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.

And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act

So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality her past is too murky to endorse.

Apple Tim Cook showed that ideology doesn’t matter when monetary greed is involved, so falling to look how not intolerant Yen just comes off as a diversion from the criticism regarding him choosing to praise Slater by omitting details of her history that didn’t fit the pro consumer narrative for the little guy.

No he didn’t. He just says this kind of stuff to seem impartial but continues to push the same right wing agenda to his cult followers.