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Not at all, I think if they did the same to Merkel and Schroeder there would be massive benefits to the German public.

They should cancel their citizenship and send them to russia.

It would be a good fit.

Perfect example of performative “humanism”.

Making claims about starvation, yet too fucking lazy to make a simple web search (on a topic with extremely detailed statistics that are even often reported in mainstream business news).

See, for you the russians invading Ukraine, engaging in mass killings, rapes, castration of POWs, stealing children, sending people who speak Ukrainian to torture camps is not a big deal. You don’t consider it to be wrong.

I consider it to be wrong. When a society supports such actions (somewhere between a strong majority to an overwhelming majority as per the more conservative approach possible), ignoring that is de facto supporting their actions. Which is what you are doing.

So don’t even try to play the faux-humanism card. I am not buying it for a second.

What a childish take. Russia is major exporter of grain, blocking all food exports to russia is not “denying food to people”.

Same with medicine, you’re acting as if russia has no internal production of medicine. Blocking all exports of medicine to a group where the overwhelming majority wish you harm is very much justified.

Get the fuck out of here you tankie roach.

How can you talk about “killing normal people” when you openly support the genocide of Ukrainians and russian imperialism in Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova.

A strong majority of russians are genocidal imperialists.

An overwhelming majority are broadly supportive of imperialism (on top of the strong majority that are openly genocidal).

The vast majority of russian consider “human rights” to be polemical tool to help forward their aims of genocidal imperialism.

And please don’t bring up “They are all afraid! They actually all oppose putin!” There are well established methodologies for evaluating preference falsification (who could have thought?) and they’ve been applied to multiple research topics with respect to attitudes of russian society. The results are damning. With respect to the annexation of Crimea, which has had consistent support at around ~85% for 7-8 years of polling, preference falsification has been estimated to be a mere 1%, i.e. it is completely irrelevant.

They are going to take him out.

In addition to recognizing Palestine, all countries should drop recognition of Israel and recognise the presence of Israelis in Palestine as being illegitimate.

The Israelis will cry about anti-semitism, but I think more and more people in the world recognize this trick and are not going to buy it.

Dark humour, but honestly I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Israeli use some variation of this.

I believe we are already seeing Israeli propganadist trying to bring up polemics about how Hamas is genocidal in order to distract people from the real genocide done by the Israelis in Gaza.

Yes, that would be smart and just move.

Both far right and centre right.

The primary enabler of Israeli crimes is the American public. Not every single person of course, from my time living in the US, both the local far right and centre right are complicit.

Realisticly, the best way forward would be to end the recognition of the Israel colonialist regime, ban all economic, logistical and communication links and start catching and prosecuting war criminals.

But for most countries, this is not possible, since America will annihilate you economically if you take such actions.

And the responsibility for this lies with the American public. And this includes the centre right.

The Israelis are increasingly getting to the point where collective responsibility would be a justified approach to their systematic mass killings and abuse of civilians.

That’s a fair take.

I will admit the “nation of contracts” piece is not from a IRL convo, it was a forum convo. That being said I’ve definitely encountered very similar polemics in face to face conversations in the US.

The level of skepticism of oligarchs and government corruption in the US is far less than in any country I’ve lived in (I’ve lived in 5 countries across North America, Europe and Asia, I’ve also visited another ~25 countries, some multiple times).

I am not saying there is no skepticism of either the judiciary or the oligarchic system, but a lot of people (note I never said a plurality or majority, I used the word “large”) actively and aggressively promote oligarchic polemics, corruption and criminality.

In other countries, you almost never have situations (IRL) where someone talks about the constitution or freedom of speech or any such concepts in a random manner. You can have conversation about such topics, but these are defined and focused discussions. In the US, as foreigner, you get the impression and that everyone and their mother claims to be constitutional expert. And the “free speech supporter” polemics (the ones I’ve heard IRL, not internet or media stuff) are extremely shallow, bordering on childish.

And the polemical outbursts almost always leverage standardized copytext. This is very noticeable if you are foreigner and you travel across the US and talk to different people in different environments.

It is not my intention to “shit on the US”, not at all. But it also not reasonable for me to deny my real experience in the US (not one location, I’ve been to maybe ~20 states or so).

Let’s hope for the best. :)

I hope you’re right, for both our sakes. I live in Ukraine, but mark my words, if we fall, you’ll be next.

I would argue “we are not there yet” is exclusively the fault of the EU public.

The fullscale invasion happened 3.5 years ago, that’s more than enough time to begin large scale rearmament and production capacity enlargement. Especially since the impotency of American centre-right is not a secret.

Not to mention russia’s invasion of Georgia in 2008 and beginning of the invasion of Ukraine in 2014 (for which Merkel rewarded the russians with Nord Stream 2).

And if you want a common policy and decision making process, you have to make sure that the participants have a common interests. The Hungarians should have been kicked out of the EU and NATO a long time ago.

I would strongly disagree. Polemicists and public demagoguery is of course present in the US, but that’s not really what I am discussing. I will give you another example.

Mandatory arbitration in B2C contexts. Objectively speaking this an American-style corruption scheme to limit the ability of individuals to use the legal system and force them to use a corporate run kangaroo court system that’s not too different from the USSR or CCP China.

Many Americans will reflexively defend any criticism of corruption in the judicial system often employing rote copytext that is widely promoted by regular people (not just influencers). In this particular context one example of common copytext would be “we are a nation of contracts” (which is of course false) but there are other variations as well.

These aren’t small exceptions. This sort of support for crime and corruption is very prevalent among the US public.

Mind you, this is not meant as an anti-American statement. From my perspective, one isn’t doing anyone a favour by sweeping key problems under the rug and pretending they don’t exist. I also say similar thing to my American friends about my own country.

I would prefer if the US was in the democratic camp of nations. But personally I think it’s already too late for that. I hope I am wrong.

I meant criminals in the ethical sense, not necessarily in the judicial sense. Compare how the American judiciary treated the Sackler Cartel verses “Chapo” Guzman of CDS.

Mind you, this is of course not unique to the US. What is unique is that many Americans openly defend such corruption (while also parroting some copytext provided by Sackler Cartel lawyers). That’s what I meant by degeneracy.