Windows 11 often requires new hardware. But that will be extremely pricey or have very little RAM for a while.

I dont believe that a single competent person works at Micro$oft anymore, but maybe maybe this could lead them to make a less shitty OS?

And garbage software like Adobe Creative Cloud too?

They obviously dont care about users, but the pain could become too big.

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    You think windows is causing the ram issue? Come on, you can’t blame every bad sw in existence on them. Have you seen chrome? Electron?

    Win 11 recommends 4 gb ram. Chrome uses 12. Who is the problem?

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      Other oses use significantly less ram so yeah I think it’s fair to say windows uses too much ram.

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          I don’t quite follow what you’re saying here but I can say without hesitation any version of Linux versus any windows version of the same era have been night and day for me performance wise. And I’ve been trying the two since windows 98 days.

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              It sounds like you have a lot of experience with running out of memory that I don’t have. I’m curious – how much ram do you have in the laptop you switched to windows? I don’t think I’ve experienced running out of memory recently. Been running Linux for like 3 years now and I’ve always felt every possible aspect is far snappier. Regarding ops comment about windows being the ram problem, I think they just were referring to it using a lot of ram, which it does. You’re calling it a few Mb and that’s just not accurate. I can’t say for sure what exact difference it was for me, but years ago I compared windows 10 to pop os. I think the difference was not far from a GB. And we can split hairs about what specifically occupies ram. Services, kernel, third party apps. The fact is that windows culture is different in a very bad way. You have to opt out of apps running on startup constantly, manually checking settings under an “advanced” tab often… I vastly prefer the culture of bloat being opt-in in almost every case. There are dozens of reasons I prefer Linux but the fact that it just runs faster without effort specifically to make that happen, is atop the list.

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                  Interesting take…

                  Another relevant twist of the knife on the Linux side is thunderbird not having a tray icon

                  What would you need one for?

                  What is the purpose of an email client that doesn’t stay running 24/7?

                  Genuinely confused here. To receive email? What’s the purpose of leaving it running all the time? The only difference in the setup I have and what you seem to want is that instead of clicking an email icon on the dock and waiting ~1second, you want to see a notification in the tray? Given that email is 90% noise no matter how many things I unsubscribe from, the last thing I want is a constant stream of notifications on yet another device.

                  I feel like specifically because I run Linux all my apps launch faster so yes I prefer to close them when not in use. Feels a lot cleaner for my mental model. Don’t get me wrong, I often run 6-8 apps at a time if I need to. But even then I don’t think I go much beyond 8 GB of ram used, unless I’m gaming.