Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.

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    i’m a leftist and have an ml acct. but it’s like there is no engagement or linking or such - i dunno. i’m a newb.

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      You’d be hard pressed to find many on the fediverse that aren’t some flavor of leftist.

      But yes. A lot of instances defederated from the .ml ones for the same reasons ml were generally blocked and banned from similar sites in the past. Which ironically led to the start of Lemmy and the link aggregation portion of the fediverse in the first place.

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        A lot of instances defederated from the .ml ones

        Last time I checked, infosec.pub was the only instance of any nontrivial size (319 users / month) that was defederated from lemmy.ml.

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          There’s a push recently on lemmy to make people think that .ml instance is unpopular, it’s user wrong and you should leave it or be ostracized.

          This is the nth post about it I’ve seen in the past few months.

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            I haven’t noticed a recent uptick myself, but the usual suspects have been pushing that narrative for years.

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          No, it does not. That’s just a popular way for MLs to disregard any opinion they don’t like. “Liberal” is to online MLs as “woke” is to conservatives. The Fediverse is packed with Anarchists, Socialists, Communists, and Leftists that don’t fit neatly into a category and that’s not even arguing about whether social democrats and democratic socialists count.

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            The Fediverse is packed with Anarchists, Socialists, Communists, and Leftists that don’t fit neatly into a category

            You mean terminally online wannabe leftists who haven’t read theory or engaged in organizing while they regurgitate CIA propaganda?

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              Like clockwork, here’s one now. And he plays a reverse card like this is Uno and not an intellectual exchange.

              “CIA propaganda” is the other ML buzzword that approximates conservatives alleging “woke” and they’re always baffled that people outside their echo chamber don’t immediately concede the point. Like they just made the first move in a game of chess and legitimately think it’s checkmate.

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                “CIA propaganda” is the other ML buzzword

                If you really wanna get informed about it, Gabriel Rockhill literally just published in Iskra Books an extensive analysis of the ways the US State Propaganda Apparatus affects media, arts, political organizing… There are literal entire books written about it if you wanna get educated.

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                I’m differentiating between online “anarchists, socialists and communists” and the real deal. I had an anarchist on Lemmy the other day tell me that they don’t think class analysis is important.

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                  Yeah, no, I heard you the first time. I just don’t get why you give a fuck. They’re not doing anything negative, so who fucking cares what the call themselves?

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                    Arguing “I’m an anarchist” and following it with “anarchism doesn’t need class analysis” is harmful to anarchism in particular, and to the left in general. Would you also see no problems with a self-declared leftist saying “trans rights are irrelevant”?

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                  I think it is. To say that you need to perform some arbitrary action or have some arbitrary prerequisite to be a member of a belief structure is silly. I see it as simply being that you are a leftist if you have leftist ideals. Like, you can argue about the applicability of communist vs anarchist vs socialist, because those relate to organizational structures, but to say you can’t label yourself as a leftist for a reason that isn’t really related to being a leftist is just moral gatekeeeping.

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                    Words mean things, if you don’t fit the definition for a political ideology or movement then you’re not in/a member of it in any meaningful way, also there’s a long and extremely well documented history of US intelligence agencies infilitrating leftists groups so gatekeeping is actually just 100% necessary and anyone who says otherwise is either a moron or a fed

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            Yes. It does. Just because you like the left wing ascetic and want free healthcare doesn’t mean you’re not a liberal, and that describes a lot of people here.