What’s in the EU-US trade deal?

“We are agreeing that the tariff straight across, for automobiles and everything else, will be a straight across tariff of 15%,” according to Trump.

Currently, most EU goods face a 10% tariff, with levies of 50% on steel and aluminum. Cars and car parts are now taxed at 25%.

Trump also said the bloc had agreed to purchase “$750 billion (€638 billion) worth of energy” from his country, as well as $600 billion more in additional investments.

The president told reporters at the start of the meeting that fairness was the main remaining sticking point.

“Europe is very closed. We don’t sell cars into Europe. We don’t sell essentially agriculture of any great degree,” he said, adding that pharmaceuticals “won’t be part of” any agreement.

  • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
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    “Europe is very closed. We don’t sell cars into Europe

    There’s no space for oversized gas guzzlers in Europe. And the one US car brand that sold well in Europe, Tesla, was torpedoed by its own Nazi CEO. How is that Europe’s fault?

    We don’t sell essentially agriculture of any great degree,”

    Raise your standards for food safety and Europe will buy. Europeans are more demanding with what they stuff in their mouths. But the way deregulations and the dismantling of the FDA is going in the US, it’s not going to improve anytime soon.

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      That’s true, we wouldn’t gain much from tariffing back US products (aside from looks), because we already don’t buy them for other reasons.

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      Fuck those pickups, they’re hilariously oversized and the job can easily be done with a trailer. Plus those big cars consume way more energy, being way more expensive than worth. Even with leases and all that, it ain’t worth.

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      Also, if I understand correctly he wants Europeans to buy more American stuff by having Americans pay more for European stuff??

    • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.worldOP
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      Raise your standards for food safety and Europe will buy. Europeans are more demanding with what they stuff in their mouths. But the way deregulations and the dismantling of the FDA is going in the US, it’s not going to improve anytime soon.

      With Trump in office, is the period of deregulation for US now. In everything. He started with AI.

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      And the one US car brand that sold well in Europe, Tesla

      Well I mean there’s Ford as well and they sell pretty good as far as I know

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          That was true 20 years ago, but Ford has been moving more and more towards a global strategy.

          The Ford Escape, Explorer, Ranger, Focus, Mustang, Mach-E, are available in both US and Europe, and I think now even the F-150 and Bronco have made it into Europe. Plus the Transit commercial range.

          So no, they’re not quite separate anymore. Some models get developed in Europe (Focus, Escape), some in the US (Mustang, Ranger) but the general goal is to sell across the Atlantic.

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        There’s GM as well… it’s just that they have learned to make better cars for Europe, and even to make some of them in Europe…

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    Also remember when Merkel complained that trump was incapable to understanding the basic functioning of the EU

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      Libs gonna yap. I mean dems always complain about GOP not understanding “institutions” and then roll over.

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    For the nth time, tariffs are import taxes levied on the LOCALS importing from a country being tariffed (well, import tariffs anyway). All Trump did here is ensure European companies that traditionally sell a lot in the US diversify and find non-American customers to break their dependency on US customers that don’t buy as much anymore. That’s good for Europe in the long term.

    As for energy, Europe needs it to avoid buying Russian oil and gas anyway. So it’s a great way for Europe to avoid dealing with sketchy petro states to get energy.

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        They’re all sketchy apart from Norway and the UK. My point being, if you want to starve Russia of petrodollars, you can’t procure Russian oil from Russian client states and pretend it’s not Russia oil.

        Europe would be better off not buying oil from dictators in the Gulf, dictators in America or dictators in Russia. But they can’t afford to forgo all of them, and the war currently raging at Europe’s doorstep is being waged by the latter. So if they have to choose which shitty countries to buy oil from, the US is part of the lesser evil mix as far as they’re concerned.

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      Although buying energy from USA means as LNG. Which is too expensive and can hurt the economy in the long run. Seems more like a bribe to avoid high tariffs for the big EU companies that export to US. Also $600 billion additional investments in US, that could made in EU.

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        Also $600 billion additional investments in US, that could made in EU.

        I never said dealing with an overbearing ultramilitarized jingoistic fascist state was easy or convenient. I’m just saying, as concessions go, this one doesn’t run against immediate European interests that much.

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          I don’t know. This show looks like how to avoid bullets. We gained nothing. We just avoided the 30% tariff with a 15% one.

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            I think Europe sees this as a stopgap solution to mitigate the economic impact until the midterms. If the dems win the house back - which appears likely - they’ll stop Trump’s illegal tariffs and reverse those “deals” that Trump had no right to make in the first place.

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      Americans won’t have money to pay for it products anyway. I’m not even sure 15% will be the problem.

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    Ah yes another stroke in our asses. No tax for their tech corps, now this. We should read “the art of the deal”

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    The hard part is explaining why do a deal seeing that Trump is in the pedo Epstein files.

    • Kyden Fumofly@lemmy.worldOP
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      Because money is money. Europe has done worse in the past. Well we continue to do, if you think about some countries in the middle east.

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    19 hours ago

    15% straight across, so will the EU be levying a 15% tariff on US imports as well?