• theangryseal@lemmy.world
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            This. As a hillbilly with no access to books growing up, with my education practically stopping at the 4th grade and no stores in sight to purchase books from, I would have never had access to the things I read without piracy.

            I half believe that’s why it’s an issue in the first place.

            I started my reading adventure at 640x480 on windows 98.

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        2 months ago

        on the basis of semantics

        It’s not semantics when “stealing” results in the loss of the original by the owner while “copying” just results in a new one being created.

        TL;DR: ✨die mad✨

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            Too bad. Because it’s being redistributed through a third party, you aren’t even stealing a negligible amount of electricity, bandwidth, or CPU time from them. Damn, when you think about it, it’s just not “stealing” in any capacity, is it?

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          That’s a semantic point. The truth is that artists deserve to be paid for their work. Whether you “copy” or “steal”, you’re getting the work without paying the creator. That’s fundamentally shitty behavior.

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            Okay, but I literally just expressed how they’re fundamentally, pragmatically different while you keep reaching for the word “semantics”. You can still disagree that it’s wrong to copy – that’s not what I’m trying to litigage. To call it only semantically different from stealing is asinine.

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    At one point you could get swaths of ebooks on pirate bay. Probably still could. With seeders. Soo…we know that’s not true.

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      piracy is not the same as stealing. You having a copy of a bible as a PDF is fundamentally physically different from having a physical book.

      Publishers have perverted the concept of ownership by hiding the fact that there is no scarcity of digital items compared to physcial ones.

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        I’m tired of people pretending like piracy does no harm.
        If 100% of readers pirate an authors book, they get 0% income. It really is that simple.

        Pirate your shit if the publishing sucks, but also support the author.
        Donate, buy their merch, buy the ebook of their site directly.

        Don’t be a cunt.

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          Depends. They certainly lose a potential sale from some people, but many people who pirate books never would have read it if they needed to pay for it. Be that because of a lack of money or a lack of interest. Same with games and shows. So no lost sales there.

          You could even argue that pirating helps with sales by causing people who never would have read the book otherwise to discuss it with friends or strangers online. I personally think that argument is a big stretch, but it’s not entirely wrong.

          But yeah, more pirates should be willing to support authors of books they like. If you think they deserve it, buy the ebook even if you’ve already read the whole thing.

          • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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            HBO knows the benefits of pirating. For many of their shows, they tend to be very lax about allowing trackers and streams for the first episode of a season, but then militantly take down everything for the second episode. Of course you can still find episode 2 if you know where to look, but the point is it’s harder. They want people to view the first episode and get hooked, and then pay for a subscription when they can’t find the next one.

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          piracy causes harm to the concept of projected profits and “lost sales” which are neither rooted in reality nor coming from a well grounded expectation of success.

          Being greedy causes all this entitlement to things that “could have happened”