For all their “christianity”, republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical.

Jesus actually teached that everybody deserves to get fed and housed. That everybody deserves healthcare. That people should care for other people in their community. That is essentially the core principles of socialism.

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    Socalism is about owning a share of your workplace. Its got nothing to do with free healthcare or caring for the community

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    From a theological point of view, Jesus was indeed a socialist. However, he wasn’t a socialist in a Marxist sense, he was a different kind of socialist. Christian socialism actually has a very interesting history that goes back quite back in time.

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      And democratic, one man one vote.

      But the man was the priest (or later the pope) and there was only one vote/voice at all.

      /s joke

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    Religion isn’t about actually helping people. It’s used to control the masses with shame, guilt and the threat of eternal damnation. It’s used to abuse and fleece the weak and the poor.

    People holding onto “that’s not what Jesus would do” are just in denial about the cult they participate in.

    Jesus is just a tool used to dupe rubes. If you need a fictional character to tell you to act like a decent human being then you’re not a good person.

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      If you need a fictional character to tell you to act like a decent human being then you’re not a good person.

      What happens when you need a real person to tell you to act like a “decent human being” like every human in existence today? Are we all by nature “evil” because we require third parties to dictate what “good” is?

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          This is incorrect. You likely have learned little on your own, especially true regarding behavior.

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      Religion isn’t about actually helping people. It’s used to control the masses with shame, guilt and the threat of eternal damnation. It’s used to abuse and fleece the weak and the poor.

      There are a lot of different religions and beliefs in the world, right? Christianity and similar religions are not the only ones that exist, and many religions originated from ancient human primitive tribes.

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        Yes and we don’t practice many of those anymore because we know we don’t have to sacrifice people to make sure the sun rises. These primitive ceremonies and practices go away with education and science.

        What’s left are grifters, pedos and people abusing those that are desperate and superstitious.

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    Jesus literally REFUSED to be dragged into ideological politics of his time (John 6:10-15)

    He even defied those who tried to put him to test and force a political statement come from him against the current political leader, the Caesar, by trying to have him a forced position on taxes (Mark 12:13-17)

    All this makes sense, as he himself said about himself and his followers that they are not part of this world (John 15:19)

    He LITERALLY made his teaching revolve around god’s kingdom, not any human ideology (Matthew 6:9, 10)

    I mean FUCK, even Satan himself offered him to be the ruler of the whole FUCKING world and he rejected it flat out (John 14:30)

    He did care about people, and alleviated the physical suffering of many, but he made clear his and his followers priority should be preaching and teaching God’s word (Mark 1:32-38)

    And why wouldn’t he, after all, part of his teachings are that all the world governments and ideologies are to be destroyed. (Revelation 16:14) Every. Single. one.

    Yes, including socialism.

    So anyone using his teachings to attack whoever and linking him to your ideology, calling him a representative of brand “X” collectivism, should get down from any high horse they think they are, it’s not doing you or them any favor and they clearly don’t know what they are talking about.

    Case in point, people talking in here about a hell existing in the bible when there is none. That’s basically all it takes

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      It sounds like you’re using “pay your taxes” to argue that it’s ok by Jesus if you vote for the Republican party, which I think is messed up because he said so much about caring for others.

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        But did Jesus proscribe government welfare programs? It seems to be that the basis for “Jesus was a socialist”, is based on his teachings on charity. But this can be done by personal charity, and infact those are the examples he gave. Nowhere in the Bible does it say “you should vote for needs-based welfare programs”.

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            But that’s not socialism, is it?

            Also you can try to argue that some methods of welfare distribution are inefficient, but you can’t argue that the needs are being ignored.

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    Jesus also teached to devote live to a fictional character and to respect judaism traditions. And in the apostols carts there’re homophobic rants.

    That’s not socialist in my book.

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    Jesus was an authoritarian. He believed there should be one being with ultimate power and control who everyone else should obey unquestioningly.

    He believed that this being was better than every living person. That any person who disobeyed the ruler should be tortured. That we are only alive, only well, only happy, if the ruler permits it.

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    If anything socialism is Christianism since that’s what Jesus taught, not socialism.

    Anyway Pope Leo XIII explained it better in the Rerum novarum (distributism not socialism), maybe an Anarchist (on Earth) because there is no ruler but Him, no government but God’s.

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    Peace and love are not in man’s nature, regardless if you are a Christian or a Socialist, or both. “My god will fuck you up if I don’t get my money!”. That is the twist on capitalism.

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    Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and unto God the things that are God’s

    That’s pro dictatorship in perpetuity, aka fascism.

    Jesus wants people to help each other voluntarily and not by the power of the state.