• kebab@endlesstalk.orgOP
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      Invading a nuclear power doesn’t sound like a smart idea. They should’ve been prevented from acquiring nukes at the first place, just like other crazy countries, most notably Pakistan and India. Now it’s too late, I am afraid

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        Pakistan and India know their limits and their weapons are for deterrence. Israel is like a rabid dog. With their Samson doctrine, they are prepared to nuke even European countries if any peace keeping force stepped into Gaza

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        Why do they even have nuclear weapons? They’ve only been a country since 1948. It’s a tiny country that has continuously abused everyone else. 25 years ago I was wondering why the US funded them and assumed it’s because of the strategic military stronghold in the region, but they’ve controlled so much of the US. There are laws in places in the US to prohibit criticizing them. How the fuck? I remember when they sued (somehow? Maybe sued is the wrong term) the US because the US wasn’t giving them enough “allowance” every year. They wanted more money. Fifteen years ago my friend asked if I heard about the four Israeli kids that were kidnapped or killed at the time, but there were 28 or so Palestinian kids that week that had had the same fate. I just didn’t/don’t get it. I largely stay out of it because I didn’t understand the nuances, or at least don’t think I do, but how can an 70ish year old country come in and tell people who have been there for a thousand years that they need to just go ahead and die?

        As I’m typing this out, I’m now thinking of the indigenous people in North America and I realize I’ve answered my own question.

        • shalafi@lemmy.world
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          Know what’s funny? Israel doesn’t have nuclear weapons. (gods that was hard to type) Seriously, they’re not officially a nuclear power on the world stage. I know they have the bomb, you know, everyone knows it. Being ignorant of the history all this baldfaced lie, I might have to read up on it.

          There are laws in places in the US to prohibit criticizing them.

          That does ring a bell, can’t think of a source though.

          As to why the US supports these genocidal maniacs, posted this earlier:

          “Israel is the largest American aircraft carrier in the world that cannot be sunk, does not carry even one American soldier, and is located in a critical region for American national security.”

          ~Alexander Haig

          Our economy runs on oil, Middle East got oil.

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        Of course never say invading. The UN would just be sending a small army to defend themselves against dangerous Hamas members at the aid points. And if some Hamas members, perhaps using stolen IDF uniforms, attack an aid point, they will be dealt with together with their entire base of operation. Everybody has the right to defend themselves, right? Then add more aid points spread out over Gaza.

    • floo@retrolemmy.com
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      No, Israel is a client state of the United States, and they are doing precisely what they know they can get away with. They’re the last thing from “rogue”.

      But that makes this all the more terrible, and what they’re doing all that harder to stop.

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        That’s not saying much because the US has always been a bit of a rogue state given their disregard and active disrespect of international law. Trumpist US is even more a rogue state.

  • PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au
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    Amit Segal, another outspoken defender of Israel, cited the same report in raising a similar alarm, warning that a famine “would see Israel lose even its most strident supporters.”

    Doubt

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      Meh, maybe in America, maybe a few. I used to support Israel, felt they were the underdogs. Now that they’ve gone mask off, only people still on their side are the people who view Palestinians as vermin the world is better off without. Those people aren’t budging on their support.