• HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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    8 days ago

    Well, I mean after the US annexed Hawaii by overthrowing their king and writing a special “it’s OK when we do it” law, doesn’t that mean they can do whatever they want?

  • aliser@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Hawaiian people should be in turn given a permission to explode some rockets over White House.

  • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works
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    9 days ago

    a remote and uninhabited island located 400 miles from Honolulu

    Mokumanamana sits at the boundary between “‘pō,’ the darkness, and ‘au,’ the light.” When a Native Hawaiian dies, their soul travels up near Mokumanamana, and after meeting their ancestors there, they potentially get to advance into the great beyond with them in the dark waters west of the island.

    okey-doke.

    So, uninhabited (at this point means not viable for habitation) and it’s a religious site that probably no one goes on a pilgrimage to? Fuckit.

    edit: so the people using the downvote button as a disagree button:

    What’s the problem? If we are going to do this space shit we need places to drop the litter, what’s wrong with this place? Is it just because it’s Musk and Trump? I’m no fan of either but wouldn’t it be better to have this SpaceX trash out in the Pacific instead of off the coast of South Texas where millions of US and Mexican citizens live?

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      9 days ago

      Maybe the down votes are because not even 2 paragraphs from the one you quoted, they continue saying that they also have permission to drop debris all around the inhabitated islands.

      Along with allowing Musk to rain schrapnel down near Mokumanamana, the FAA also granted SpaceX the ability to do so around Hawaii’s eight main islands — which are populated with American citizens who may end up having their houses or property hit by debris — and portions of the Papahānaumokuākea marine national monument, a UNESCO world heritage site that’s home to thousands of diverse species of animal and plant life.

      • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works
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        9 days ago

        bbbut the historical site! They are dropping it over the Gulf of Mexico right now so why shouldn’t we move the debris field? Is there really a bigger problem doing it here or is it because Hawaiians are just pissed off they will be the recipients now?

            • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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              9 days ago

              the indigenous people have been heavily colonized. being a us state does not preclude you from some rich fuck showing up and ruining the ecosystem you maintain

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                9 days ago

                Are they Americans or not? I know that’s a loaded question but we have to dump space trash somewhere if we are going to continue launching. We’re not allowed to dump the trash in international waters AFAIK so we have to pick somewhere in our borders.

                Gulf of Mexico or The Pacific. Pick one.

                • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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                  9 days ago

                  you already dismissed this in another thread, but seriously, we don’t need spacex poluting our oceans and orbits like this. just because nasa isn’t doing launches isn’t reason to give a corporation carte blanche to do whatever in the name of “progress” while stymying real science. we could do, as a planet, with fewer launches than are being done and taking a longer view of science and research than quarterly profits.

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      6 days ago

      I’m just glad I’m not the only one here old enough to remember that episode. Or, three-parter to be precise.

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    8 days ago

    Better not mess with sacred stuff in Hawaii. You could wake up with a tarantula crawling on your chest.