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Seems like this time around we only know this because of a leaked memo. We have very little power to push back and the people representing the countries in the EU are not even elected by the people.
At this point, i think civically pushing back is the wrong way. They need to understand that such behavior is abusive and needs to stop. I think throwing bricks would be the better way of “pushing back” here. I.e., we say NO once, maybe twice, but the third time we throw bricks. The current shitshow is unacceptable. Even a toddler would behave more sensible than the EU commission. What the heck do we need that trainwreck of an organization for? They get paid a shitload of money while being the stupidest, most arrogant and removed from reality people i know.
5 july foundation wrote a blogpost about why we should send postcards instead:
Here is your chance to put pressure on MEPs to stick to their no to Chat Control 2 in a simple way.
As we have previously reported, there are signs that the European Parliament’s unanimous no to Chat Control 2 may be loosening - now that the EU elections are behind us.
So they may need some external pressure. This often happens with various email campaigns - which can easily be dismissed as spam and mass mailings.
However, something that usually bites is physical mail. Thousands of emails are the order of the day when things get heated in the European Parliament. But 25 physical letters are considered a public outcry.
So proud that my country is already opposing! Don’t have to do anything now (except for spreading the word, naturally).
It’s the government’s job, we pay them for it, why should I be wasting my time for free to do their job, after all? Just fire your governments and hire someone better suited for the task!
What you see is also in part how the EU legislative process operates. There are very very long backs and forwards within the commission and with the committees, with proposals that sometimes improve and sometimes worsen (this particular one is an absolute disaster), until some form of consensus is reached.
There simply is an agreement that something should be done about the online distribution of CSAM, and so they’ll keep coming up with new ideas until something gives, or someone manages to spread the idea that simply nothing should be done about it.
The most effective way to fight this might be to build consensus around a less criminally insane way to do this.
The most effective way to fight this might be to build consensus around a less criminally insane way to do this.
There fundamentally is no less criminally insane way to do this. After WW2, there was a consensus in germany to not surveil its own citizens (as had happened during the Nazi times). This EU proposal goes starkly against that, and seemingly ignores all of the other blatant problems. The EU commission gets paid a shitload of money per year sothat they make meaningful proposals. This is hardly it. They need to prove they’re worth their salt by doing basic thinking and figuring out that such a proposal as is now on the table is not even worth being discussed, it should be discarded immediately.
There simply is an agreement that something should be done about the online distribution of CSAM
For the protection of children, it’s essential that nobody makes money by distributing CSAM, because where money is to be made, somebody will do it. This calls for regulations on payment processors to ensure no illegal businesses are served by them.
Fortunately, AI kinda solves this because just like artists can’t sell art anymore if AI spits out more content at practically no cost, neither can CSAM be sold if AI spits it out at practically no cost. As such, the business dries out. And that’s what matters.
It’s frustrating but it seems there’s no stopping it. These traitors will continue pushing for different variations of this until one passes.
And we keep pushing back.
Seems like this time around we only know this because of a leaked memo. We have very little power to push back and the people representing the countries in the EU are not even elected by the people.
EU commission is one of the most undemocratic institutes that dares call itself democratic.
They also mandated online age checks this year as a last minute amendement to an unrelated dossier (1).
They’re selfserving autocrats.
In what way? We’re paying them to hurt us over and over again, and nothing we can do as they’re an unelected patriciate.
historically, strikes and labor movements.
At this point, i think civically pushing back is the wrong way. They need to understand that such behavior is abusive and needs to stop. I think throwing bricks would be the better way of “pushing back” here. I.e., we say NO once, maybe twice, but the third time we throw bricks. The current shitshow is unacceptable. Even a toddler would behave more sensible than the EU commission. What the heck do we need that trainwreck of an organization for? They get paid a shitload of money while being the stupidest, most arrogant and removed from reality people i know.
There might be. This website makes the process of emailing your representatives very easy.
I heavily changed the text they proposed in the hopes that it would be read. Just sent it now. If you’re in the EU it’s worth sending the email IMO.
The constitution in Ireland guarantees privacy in the home so I added that into the mix.
5 july foundation wrote a blogpost about why we should send postcards instead:
Here is your chance to put pressure on MEPs to stick to their no to Chat Control 2 in a simple way.
As we have previously reported, there are signs that the European Parliament’s unanimous no to Chat Control 2 may be loosening - now that the EU elections are behind us.
So they may need some external pressure. This often happens with various email campaigns - which can easily be dismissed as spam and mass mailings.
However, something that usually bites is physical mail. Thousands of emails are the order of the day when things get heated in the European Parliament. But 25 physical letters are considered a public outcry.
Would you know where to send them? I think I can plan to ship a few in the coming days
I believe you can find the contactinfo here
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/home
It’s a good idea. I still have time off their offices are in the country. Cheers.
So proud that my country is already opposing! Don’t have to do anything now (except for spreading the word, naturally).
It’s the government’s job, we pay them for it, why should I be wasting my time for free to do their job, after all? Just fire your governments and hire someone better suited for the task!
done! that site makes it incredibly easy, thank you.
I tried do it today and email got rejected by the recipient.
Maybe many of them have already put a filter list to thrown the email directly to spam or not even be accepted by the mta.
Yeah I got the same but only for a subset. Nearly all of them went through so maybe that happened for you too?
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We need to pass something that bans these types of bills or establishes some rights that prevents this.
there is stopping it. weren’t you euros the ones that invented the guillotine?
What you see is also in part how the EU legislative process operates. There are very very long backs and forwards within the commission and with the committees, with proposals that sometimes improve and sometimes worsen (this particular one is an absolute disaster), until some form of consensus is reached.
There simply is an agreement that something should be done about the online distribution of CSAM, and so they’ll keep coming up with new ideas until something gives, or someone manages to spread the idea that simply nothing should be done about it.
The most effective way to fight this might be to build consensus around a less criminally insane way to do this.
There fundamentally is no less criminally insane way to do this. After WW2, there was a consensus in germany to not surveil its own citizens (as had happened during the Nazi times). This EU proposal goes starkly against that, and seemingly ignores all of the other blatant problems. The EU commission gets paid a shitload of money per year sothat they make meaningful proposals. This is hardly it. They need to prove they’re worth their salt by doing basic thinking and figuring out that such a proposal as is now on the table is not even worth being discussed, it should be discarded immediately.
There is fundamentally no less criminally insane way to combat the circulation of CSAM? Then the council may have a point after all…
actually i don’t think the council has a point
For the protection of children, it’s essential that nobody makes money by distributing CSAM, because where money is to be made, somebody will do it. This calls for regulations on payment processors to ensure no illegal businesses are served by them.
Fortunately, AI kinda solves this because just like artists can’t sell art anymore if AI spits out more content at practically no cost, neither can CSAM be sold if AI spits it out at practically no cost. As such, the business dries out. And that’s what matters.
Let’s just say: No traitors -> No pushing