The Palestinian resistance group Hamas marked 700 days of Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza on Friday, calling it a “stain on humanity” and urging the international community to take decisive action against the ongoing atrocities.

In a statement, Hamas highlighted its efforts to reach a ceasefire and a prisoner exchange agreement, stressing that it had “shown significant flexibility” in negotiations.

The movement blamed the repeated failure of mediators on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and called him “a war criminal committed to undermining diplomatic initiatives, pursuing indefinite plans of extermination and displacement, and placing the lives of captives at risk to serve his government’s agenda.”

Hamas renewed its call to the international community, including Arab and Islamic countries, the UN, and its organs, particularly the UN Security Council, to “fulfill their responsibilities toward the Palestinian people and intervene to halt the crimes of the fascist occupation government.”

The movement emphasized the need for “punitive measures against Israel,” warning that “mere condemnations are insufficient” and that, without substantial consequences, Israel would “continue its crimes without regard for international protests or positions.”

Hamas also praised global grassroots solidarity with the Palestinian people and welcomed the launch of the Global Sumud Flotilla, an initiative to break the blockade on Gaza.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    You misunderstand, I’m not here to answer your questions and have no obligation to answer them.

    I’m explaining to you the situation on the ground over there with all the links necessary to understand it.

    It’s not that the Palestinians need to do more or have been doing the wrong things, it’s that after being blockaded by Israel since the 90s they are physically incapable of doing anything effective. They don’t have the resources.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

    They can’t do it themselves, Israel won’t allow anything else, it’s going to require an external 3rd party to stop it and the world powers don’t have the will to do it.

    So what we’re going to see is the inevitable back and forth until one side or the other are annihilated. There is no “winning” here.

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      Jordan you can’t start of answering in place of a terrible user then use that as an excuse when called out.

      You started this entire thing with something unrelated and now don’t want to continue after showing how wrong you are? You don’t get to keep doing this every fucking time

      Just because they haven’t ever been able to doesn’t mean they don’t WANT to. ;)

      The most prominent example I can think of prior to the October 7th attack would have been the 1972 terrorist attack at the Munich Olympics:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre

      But the continual “you committed an atrocity so we’re going to do another” back and forth back and forth for 6,000 years is only going to ensure everyone there gets killed unless someone forces it to stop.

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        I’m not wrong. Both the Palestinians and the Israelis want to wipe the other out. Stated and quoted multiple times. “From the river to the sea.” Both peoples are attempting to claim one land and that gets you generations of bloodshed.

        The only real difference is the Israelis have the capacity to do it and the Palestinians do not. You aren’t going to take over Israel throwing rocks and shooting what may as well be bottle rockets.

        The only solution is for a 3rd party to separate them and make them behave, which nobody has the will to do, certainly not the US which is in the tank for Israel. Definitely not the U.N. which is blocked from acting by the U.S. Europe can’t be bothered.

        Absent that this will all just continue until one of them is killed to the last man. At this point, that’s looking like the Palestinians.

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          One wants to eliminate the people living in the area and the other the government.

          Either way that still ignores you eagerly jumping into a thread then yelling to stop as soon as it doesn’t go your way

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            LOL no. That is not what they mean.

            “From the river to the sea” is a genocidal statement when Netanyahu says it, it’s equally genocidal when the Palestinians say it.

            Eliminating the state doesn’t revert the land to the people, only the elimination of all the people living there does that.

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              The difference is Palestinians want a land for both, which is what from the river to the sea means, while Israel wants just the land.

              Again you’re ignorance is astounding

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                Palestinians do not want the land for both, they want their land back and that means eliminating the Israelis who will not give it up willingly.

                See the quote from Efraim Karsh quoted from “Arafat’s War: The Man and His Battle for Israeli Conquest”. 2004 Grove Press. here:

                https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calls_for_the_destruction_of_Israel

                “The new “free and democratic society” was perceived not as a true partnership between equal groups sharing sovereignty over a specific territory, but rather as an Arab-Muslim state in which Jews would be reduced to a permanent minority status, a modern-day version of the ahl al-dhimma” system of “protected non-Muslim minorities” that had existed since Islam’s early days […] The PLO’s pretence that those Jewish citizens of the defunct state of Israel who would like to become citizens new Arab Palestine would be allowed to do so was patently false […] the Palestinian National Covenant, revised in July 1968 […] states explicitly that only those Jews “who were normally resident in Palestine up to the beginning of the Zionist invasion are Palestinians.” Since most of Israel’s citizens are an integral part of this “Zionist invasion,” the practical meaning of this declaration is that the prospective Palestinian state would be virtually Judenrein[b]."

                Bolding mine. The Judenrein link goes to this definition:

                “A Nazi word to designate an area that has been “cleansed” of Jews during the Holocaust.”

                The plan is to cleanse Israel of Jews, full stop. Just as much as Israel wants to cleanse Israel of Palestinians. Neither side can be allowed to proceed with genocide, and yet nobody wants to stop them either.

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                  Did you read your source or the references.

                  1 it’s not even Palestinians but just a list of Arabs upset at the situation since the 40s, and 2 even has such references as Iran saying we do not wish to eliminate the people simply the Israeli government

                  https://www.france24.com/en/20191115-khamenei-says-iran-wants-removal-of-israel-state-not-people

                  You’re entire argument is simply the same as what Israel is currently doing to the Palestinians expressed by 1 historian.

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                    Again, eliminating the government will not, ever, reclaim the land.

                    Same with the “Land Back” idiots in the US. If the US government stopped existing today, that would not return a single square inch of land back to native peoples.

                    The only way to get the land back is to take it, and the only way to take it is to get rid of the people currently living there.

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      You misunderstand, I’m not here to answer your questions and have no obligation to answer them. You don’t answer my question because you don’t have any answers. You can’t say a single valid counter argument to prove that there is zero way for Palestinians to stop hating Israeli and claiming that ever if Israel end occupation they would still try to destroy israel. It is factually wrong

      It’s not that the Palestinians need to do more or have been doing the wrong things, it’s that after being blockaded by Israel since the 90s they are physically incapable of doing anything effective. They don’t have the resources.

      Whatever their a chance it happen or not is not the point. No matter how impossible something is people should do the right thing and not dropping arms

      So what we’re going to see is the inevitable back and forth until one side or the other are annihilated. There is no “winning” here.

      How Israel succeeded in their plan means that no one is winning? t It would mean the genocidal state won with the complicity of the major western countries and the Arab leaders traitors . You are even contracting yourself in the same post. You say that Palestinians can’t do nothing about Israel finishing it’s final solution and at the same time claim that Palestinians can destroy Israel

      Instead of both siding the conflict and dropping your arms . You should acknowledge the core issue , you should support never giving up. You should support any action trying to change the situation no matter how futile it is.

      You clearly lack critical thinking and is too naive . This is my last reply to this useless conversation where you ignore every single argument