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    5 days ago

    They’ve been taught to shoot first check later for many decades. They know that anyone they kill will be marked as a combatant later - we’re only hearing about this story at all because some Navy / intelligence staff involved want people to hear the story so they don’t, “underestimate the extreme risks that American forces undertake.”

    Now to me - a humble nobody - it sure seems that while the Seals did take risks of course (lives on the line) - they signed up and worked hard at the chance to take those risks. The far wider and more serious risk was igniting nuclear war or similar huge conflict with South Korea though no fault of the South Koreans. Fuck the “we need people to hear this so they know we’re risking our lives” shit. People need to hear this because it’s illegal and dangerous and shouldn’t happen at all.

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      It’s like this for ages and has increased a lot since 9/11.

      After a failed operation (afaik intelligence wise) German KSK specops and US SpecOps(Seals if I remember correctly) almost got into a fist fight.

      The reason? The Germans were spotted by a shepherd who was unrelated to the Taliban but could in theory reveal the operation. The Germans were unable to capture him in time due to terrain so they retreated.

      The US SpecOps were extremely angry and a brawl almost broke out as they basically told the German they should have simply killed the unarmed shepherd.

      Which would have meant a potential murder trial for any German soldier back home.

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          Actually they are far better than we Germans think. I work with various active and former military members of various countries and Germany has a far better reputation amongst them than people think. Especially the ones who actively served along them in A’stan, Mali, the Balkans or in the various Marine missions are often fairly happy with them. The German army does have some capabilities currently only a few nations have - and while it has major issues, these are mostly coming from the political leadership and the procuring department.

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        5 days ago

        Thanks for sharing the story. Sure feels racist that the countries that US special forces are nonchalant about murdering innocent civilians in seem to all be non-white.