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New European car registrations of Tesla vehicles totaled 8,837 in July, down 40% year-on-year, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers Association, or ACEA.

BYD recorded 13,503 new registrations in July, up 225% annually.

Elon Musk’s automaker faces a number of challenges in Europe, including intense ongoing competition and reputational damage to the brand.

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    Regulation regarding rust on the brake discs is very clear, and trivial to fix. So why wasn’t it fixed?

    It’s not something to “fix” like that.

    It’s there one day and its not the next. If it’s there, you fail.

    It just depends on if you’re using them or not and the weather at the time. If you take the time to go to a shop for a pre-inspection (not everyone will), and they see rust, they’ll just tell you to go use your brakes. That’s the fix.

    Tesla wasn’t going to be last if not for this rust issue.

    Edit: Just to be more clear - If you drive your car in the rain, park it for a few days or even overnight and check it, you’ll have rust. You don’t fix that in any way other than using them. OEMs don’t just fix that.

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      Tesla wasn’t going to be last if not for this rust issue.

      First that is simply wrong, did you not see the biggest point of failure is in the steering? The brakes are not what makes Tesla worst, it’s the general shitty quality and service.

      Tesla wouldn’t be last if they didn’t have any faults… duh.

      Tesla is so much worse than everybody else in several regards, remove the brake problem and they would still be worst. Also it’s completely irrelevant, if Tesla has this issue more than other cars it makes them worse. You might as well say they aren’t bad except for the wheels falling off all the time.
      Other brands exist under the same physical laws, but don’t have as many issues as Tesla, also these issue for Tesla are not isolated to Denmark, in Germany we see a similar picture, Tesla has higher failure rate than any other brand.

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        Oh shit, I didn’t realize this was Denmark, i was thinking of the German one. In the German one, Tesla was only 1-2% above the next worst one which wasn’t an EV. And the reason Tesla would have more issues with rust is the reasons I listed above.

        Where do you see the actual numbers/ranking the article you posted doesn’t show that, but the first thing it calls out is brakes (among all the others)

        Edit this is the quote from the article

        It is especially the fault groups “brake equipment”, “lamping equipment”, “axles, wheels and tires” and “controlldom” that the cars fail

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          I tried to find an article with better info, but I couldn’t, the info was available a couple of months ago. Search engines just wont give me those articles.
          But IMO it doesn’t really matter if it’s rust on the brakes, the brakes need to work in emergencies where regenerative braking is not enough.
          You don’t get a pass for not using your brakes much in your daily driving. It’s a serious safety issue and not just some minor thing that isn’t important.
          Tesla not having this under control shows that Tesla is not a good brand for safety.

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            It’s not a serious saftey issue at the level that would fail the car.

            If you are gung ho on regen and never use/clear your brakes, you could definitely get to the point of it being legitimately dangerous, and that 100% needs to be found during an inspection and resolved, but that’s not what’s happening here in a lot of cases. This isn’t a OEM problem, it’s driver education around something entirely new problem. There are a lot of signs that something is wrong before it gets dangerous.

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              It’s not a serious saftey issue at the level that would fail the car.

              That’s weird statement when it clearly does, and you even claimed yourself it was the main reason for failing for Tesla.

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                  It’s not too strict, it’s the law, and has been practiced without problems for decades, and other brands don’t have the issues Tesla has.

                  But your comment is EXACTLY what Tesla claimed, and even filed a complaint claiming regarding the steering. A complaint that was of course dismissed.
                  But AFAIK even Tesla never claimed rust on the brakes isn’t a safety issue.

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                    It becomes a saftey issue when there’s enough to cause pitting or gouging, which in turn reduces the surface area you can brake on. You’ll fail before that point. You’ll fail at the point that using the brakes can clear them and let you pass.