And it’s wild because the proof is in the wiki article you linked. Since 2000 there have been a total of 85 school shootings in all of Europe. The US (A single country) has had 630.
The problem is obviously significantly worse in the US.
I’ll add to this that Europe has about 1.6 times the population of the US. This means that Europe has roughly one school shooting for every 12 incidents in the US when corrected for population.
If Europe had school shootings at a rate similar to the US, there would have been on average 40 incidents per year. That is: about one school shooting every week of school since year 2000. I can’t even imagine going to school knowing that and wondering if my school is the one that’s going to be shot up this week.
Cos it is always happening in USA and the response is always T&P
So saying it not a problem because you show some events across multiple centuries on one Wikipedia page for one continent doesn’t change the issue that the USA is facing on a daily basis. The meme is just a daily reminder.
I notice. Even on this forum many people seem to go “This is OUR problem! You euro’s have no idea what you’re talking about and we shouldn’t work together on resolving it” 😕
Uh, no. It’s nowhere near the same level of problem in other countries as it is here. Trying to “what about Europe” as a gotcha isn’t trying to solve the issue, it’s diminishing the reality that the USA has a fundamentally flawed issue around gun rights and fun control, and we pay for that problem with too many dead kids.
That’s … not what I was doing? Why read it in the worst way possible?
I’m saying: it’s untrue that everywhere else in the world is happy school time, that the problem is unique to the US.
People are people. If you want to understand the factors that drive a person to hurt their classmates, it’s even more useful to consider the whole of contexts in which that happens, instead of wrongly pretending it doesn’t happen in the rest of the world.
How does pretending this epidemic ISN’T unique to the US solve the problem?
Name any other country that has anywhere near the amount of shootings we have in a year. Fuck, name one that has a quarter or a tenth of what we have year after year.
Don’t let your misplaced pride in the US blind you to a very unique problem that we have.
Anywhere else in the world has an incident where children get murdered in school and they do something. Largely, what they do serves to make children safer.
How does the meme, or pretending it’s unique to the US, help to resolve the problem?
The scale and frequency is unique to the US.
And it’s wild because the proof is in the wiki article you linked. Since 2000 there have been a total of 85 school shootings in all of Europe. The US (A single country) has had 630.
The problem is obviously significantly worse in the US.
I’ll add to this that Europe has about 1.6 times the population of the US. This means that Europe has roughly one school shooting for every 12 incidents in the US when corrected for population.
If Europe had school shootings at a rate similar to the US, there would have been on average 40 incidents per year. That is: about one school shooting every week of school since year 2000. I can’t even imagine going to school knowing that and wondering if my school is the one that’s going to be shot up this week.
Y’all almost seem proud of it, to the point that acknowledging other places can have the same problem, is anger inducing?
It is unique to the US. Other places have 2 or more orders of magnitude fewer shootings.
And knowing this does help you figure out how to solve the problem.
Cos it is always happening in USA and the response is always T&P So saying it not a problem because you show some events across multiple centuries on one Wikipedia page for one continent doesn’t change the issue that the USA is facing on a daily basis. The meme is just a daily reminder.
Hi, what is “T&P”?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughts_and_prayers
Oh, of course. Thanks.
Thoughts and prayers
Ah, yes.
It’s unique to the US because we aren’t trying to mitigate.
I notice. Even on this forum many people seem to go “This is OUR problem! You euro’s have no idea what you’re talking about and we shouldn’t work together on resolving it” 😕
Uh, no. It’s nowhere near the same level of problem in other countries as it is here. Trying to “what about Europe” as a gotcha isn’t trying to solve the issue, it’s diminishing the reality that the USA has a fundamentally flawed issue around gun rights and fun control, and we pay for that problem with too many dead kids.
That’s … not what I was doing? Why read it in the worst way possible?
I’m saying: it’s untrue that everywhere else in the world is happy school time, that the problem is unique to the US.
People are people. If you want to understand the factors that drive a person to hurt their classmates, it’s even more useful to consider the whole of contexts in which that happens, instead of wrongly pretending it doesn’t happen in the rest of the world.
None? This is Lemmy, not parliament or whatever US call that thing.
How does pretending this epidemic ISN’T unique to the US solve the problem?
Name any other country that has anywhere near the amount of shootings we have in a year. Fuck, name one that has a quarter or a tenth of what we have year after year.
Don’t let your misplaced pride in the US blind you to a very unique problem that we have.
Anywhere else in the world has an incident where children get murdered in school and they do something. Largely, what they do serves to make children safer.
In America you do literally nothing