• shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      13 days ago

      And we have the Poarch Creek Indians here in NW Florida. I have yet to see an identifiable Indian, even at their own casino in Alabama. 1/512th Indian blood ain’t Indian.

      • JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        13 days ago

        And? You’ve heard of the Trail of Tears and the Indian Removal Act, yes? Where do you think the end of that trail was?

        • shalafi@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          12 days ago

          We already established I’m from Oklahoma. We learned this as children in the 70s. And yet I have never known an Indian, not one that’s remotely close to full-blooded anyway. Loads of tribes ended up there, but they’ve been genetically (mostly) wiped out.

          • JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            12 days ago

            they’ve been genetically (mostly) wiped out

            That’s just an ignorant lie.

            You’re pulling the same “they don’t look like Indians to me” racist bullshit that Trump did.

            • shalafi@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              10 days ago

              I honestly don’t get it. For example, I worked for an “Indian” couple one time. Blonde and blue, pale wife, husband a tribe member by marriage. They got all kinds of benefits and government contract opportunities. Just how much genetic drift will we accept before we say “not Indian”? That’s a real question.

              But in any case, in Oklahoma for my first 30-years I never met a single person even claiming Indian blood. You seem to have a hard time believing that. I can’t even think of someone saying, “I know this Indian guy…”

              Dad had cause to believe we had a black relative in the past. Am I black? I’d be laughed out of any given room if I claimed such. So, draw the line.

              • JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                10 days ago

                You’re basing the entire native American population on your tiny sample size, you racist fuck. pull your head out your ass.

                • shalafi@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  8 days ago

                  I’m stating my experiences, and oh boy are you mad about it.

                  “Despite being from Oklahoma, I’ve never known an American Indian.”

                  “Racist filth!!!”

                  I suspect you’re like the girl I ran into on Bluesky claiming to trace her Indian heritage back over 800 years.

                  “How can trace that back to people who didn’t have a writing system? Most remaining royalty on the planet gets real fuzzy over that time span.”

                  You’re one of those blond, blue 1/256th “Indians” aren’t you? No other way to explain your anger at such a simple conversation.

                  • JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    8 days ago

                    I don’t have a drop of Indian blood in me as far as I know. I’m calling you a racist for trying to act like people with a lot of Indian blood can’t still look white.