• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    If God existed, I doubt he goes around with a magic cancer wand. That being said, Pope Leo isn’t a good person, he just has a good media team.

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        He doesn’t support women in the ministry, vilified the LGBTQ community and most importantly, protected pedo priests.

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          He doesn’t support women in the ministry

          That’s not entirely true. While he doesn’t support women in the priesthood or as bishops (as set in Catholic dogma), he has placed women in high administrative positions within the Vatican, which is something other popes haven’t done.

          vilified the LGBTQ community

          Also not true. He’s pushed a policy of welcoming all people, and while it’s true he doesn’t support gay marriage, that is again due to established Catholic dogma and has been much more progressive than previous popes.

          protected pedo priests.

          I can’t say whether or not that’s true, I can’t find any instances of him protecting pedo priests.

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          I mean… would he have even been allowed to be the Pope if he didn’t do those things? (let’s not pretend the Pope is actually a divine appointment)

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            I’d argue striving to be head of one of the most hateful orgs automatically makes you bad person. Protecting pedos comes with the territory but doesn’t give him a pass so to speak.

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      What constitutes a “good” person?

      I’d argue with how pathetically shitty the average person is, that Leo is, in fact, a good person, whether or not you believe in any sort of divine guidance.

      Hell, he doesn’t even have to be a good Christian (by teachings, not Christian acts) to never the less end up on the ‘good’ half of humanity!

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          That’s … rather abstract. Besides, hating trans people is (sadly) still not a guarantee to find yourself on the ‘bad’ 50% of humanity. … and that’s assuming that only 50% of humanity is bad, which is rather forgiving!

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            17 hours ago

            Well he hates AI too, because it threatens the confession booth. And trans people hate AI girlfriends because they demonstrate that love was never gated by an expensive operation; while Hinton, the father of backprop, considers AI conscious already. So there’s that. In general the more someone thinks they’re the Good Guys, the more they’re the Bad Guys. Now watch Lemmy turn into a mental pretzel to justify their own hatred of AI while missing the parallel with the cotton plantations wherein black people were also treated as unconscious and inferior. I’ll see myself out before my inbox fills with comments calling me a loser for siding with Turing.