The 87-year-old whose eviction sparked a domestic crisis and triggered nationwide anti-government protests has died in hospital late on Wednesday. Protesters say they will continue to demonstrate to uphold her legacy.

  • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
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    Recentering has nothing do with violence per se, and i do not think appealing to corpos is going to change things by itself. But we have civil institutions in Europe that can be an vent for all of this aggression without causing bodily harm. I believe that democracy can enact meaningful change without physically harming people.

    I have never killed an animal larger than a fly, and i would never do that outside of a fight to the death, because i realized the sanctity of life. Nothing can give it back, and nothing can be gained by senselessly spilling blood. I am also an atheist - religion is a socially accepted delusion for me, and should be treated like any mental illness to release humanity from this cycle of insanity society has been caught in thousands of years ago.

    I am sorry that you were indoctrinated to make it ok to kill random animals for your gain.

    • 🇨🇦GreenBeard🇨🇦@lemmy.ca
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      But we have civil institutions in Europe that can be an vent for all of this aggression without causing bodily harm.

      And how well are those working right now? How’s the resistance to spiralling authoritarianism going in France, in Germany, in most European countries? How are your institutional outlets holding up to Russian and American propaganda? Because I know here in Canada it sure isn’t sunshine and roses. Sometimes you have to remind the right wing that the system protects them, as much as it protects us so they quit undermining it.

      I am sorry that you were indoctrinated to make it ok to kill random animals for your gain.

      Not the point, but unless you’re a vegan, I’m just more honest about it. Also, the ritual isn’t about faith, it’s a frame of mind. The point of the story was that there is a whole world of difference between not caring about life, and accepting that life is messy and sometimes ugly and choosing to do the least harm for the greatest good is the kindest choice you can make.

      My general point was that standing back and letting a little selective violence leak through can be enough to remind everyone what the stakes are, and can prevent a lot more violence down the road. Demonstrating that you aren’t so lost in bureaucracy that you’ve forgotten how to hit back quells a lot of ambitions and saves lives in the long run.

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        They are working better than anything humanity has done before in the last thousands of years, people keep forgetting that.

        And i have practically become an ovo/lacto-vegetarian - i had a stomach operation years ago resulting in a massively diminished nutrient absorption and strongly reduced portion size (Roux-en-y bariatric surgery) which prevent me from going further down that route, since according to my dietologist i should eat at least 90g of pure protein per day to make sure my needs are met while my portion size is very limited depending on food type; add that to the fact that you can’t really subsist on pure protein and cutting out milk products becomes real hard (actually my dietologist was pretty adamant about making sure i eat meat, but i simply lost the taste for it with everything surrounding it)

        Edit: The real issue i have is that nearly every legitimate movement in the last decades has been publicly denigrated by the actions of elements that have used physical violence as their outlet. If you are someone who wants things to get better for people, you can’t simply accept elements who by their actions are actively hurting both the movement and people. It is important that these people, instead of acting like fucking animals with enough smarts to do real damage, try to integrate into the movement as a whole. I am aware of the media warfare that is happening under these circumstances, and that makes it EVEN MORE important to make sure that when violence happens, it is with clear intent and not some random bullshit.

        • 🇨🇦GreenBeard🇨🇦@lemmy.ca
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          I understand your position. I disagree with the framing. We remember the successful part of the movements that remained peaceful, because in the end it’s the peace we’re looking for. We downplay the fact that the peaceful resistance was only given a fair hearing because they were the reasonable alternative to branch of the movement that was far less restrained. Both factions were equally necessary to drive change. Both fail to produce productive outcomes without the other. Violence alone produces only more violence, that is true. But words without stakes have no weight.

          All movements for justice are slandered by those in positions of power. They will play the victim regardless. I think the things done in the October 7th attack were horrific. And at the same time I recognize the response is even more monstrous. The public is far more willing to forgive an underdog when they lash out, regardless of how the media spins it. Americans wouldn’t be celebrating “St. Luigi”, who objectively murdered a man in cold blood if the media environment were the only factor. You can create rhetorical distance without condemning the rage that fueled the violence.