• GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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      There is a probematic split, probably due to capitalism favoring stem education, between what we consider intelligent and wisdom. The latter is cultivated from engaging with “idle” topics such as philosophy, art, history and cultures, all that stuff that doesnt make any money and takes time spent not working.

      So naturally these arent things the oligarchy engages with in any way that is conducive to the development of actual ethical beliefs, morals, or feelings of social responsibility. This is reinforced by the fact that those ethics would conflict with their entire existence and role in society, and self interest wins out.

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          Name an intelligent person who’s not educated. Just literally one. Education is the only thing an ‘intelligent’ person has. They recall what they know. Their education. I’m not talking about university, I’m talking about knowledge. I don’t care about formal education. One’s education is just their accumulated knowledge. Manifesting accumulated knowledge is intelligence. The only thing I can imagine is ‘intelligence’ is capacity for pattern matching.

          A baby learning to cry for food has accumulated knowledge. A feral child surviving in the woods has accumulated knowledge. These are ‘intelligent’ beings no matter their environment. They’re smart as hell and can pattern match to live. There is no such thing as ‘intelligence’ because all living animals exhibit it. Life itself is intelligence, sure. I’ll admit that. “Actual intelligence” is just being a DNA based organism apparently. Sure. I agree.

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            My dad is pretty intelligent and didn’t even graduate highschool.

            Intelligence pertains to ability, not education.

            Or do you think that intelligent people didn’t exist until education? Because if that’s the case, who created education?

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              Everyone has ability. Knowledge of possibilities is literally the only limiting factor in ability, all other things equal. You can do incredible things if you just knew about it and developed the neural pathways your brain literally is designed for. But you don’t know about them, you haven’t developed the neural pathways for them, therefore you think you can’t do it. But you could if you have the capacity for doing all of it. The only limiting thing, really, is your ability to pattern match, which more things to pattern match against in your brain, the more things you can pull from to learn new things. Someone who can take their knowledge of piano and transfer that to guitar is as ‘intelligent’ as a person who can transfer knowledge from haskell to ocaml or from biology to chemistry or from history to politics.

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                  It’s their choice to not utilize their ability that makes them idiots. Idiots have the capacity and don’t utilize it. A person who lacks the ability is literally neurologically damaged. A person who’s educated by a village of dumb idiotic, propagandized, indoctrinated people then what do you think they will pattern match from to the world around them?

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      Actual intelligent people by IQ or by education? Those are the ones working for the Billionaires, pushing shit ads to our eyeballs and enshittifying platforms for us.

      Actual intelligent people by street smarts are pushing for democracy, better technology, better education, but their voices are being drowned out by the wave of hate caused by lack of adult education.