• Dagnet@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Disclaimer: I haven’t voted for a bolsonaro and never will

    Lula is no saint and has been involved in one of the biggest corruption scandals this country ever had. His only positive is that he isn’t bolsonaro

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      5 days ago

      one of the biggest corruption scandals this country ever had

      It was the largest one in history until the one from Flavio Bolsonaro… And on what was the largest one until that famous one got caught.

      And also in coordinating a criminal voting ring in the Legislative

      Still both of them added up don’t come anything close to the Bolsonaro’s one, and the Bolsonaro’s father coup attempt was way more explicit.

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      5 days ago

      Want he cleared? While operation carwash was real, it became a political weapon doing US style overcharging shakedowns?

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        Nah. They just decided the evidence couldn’t be used but the evidence was real, like having a video of a murder but the judge said the camera was illegal. He also admitted on video of making use of the house that got a free renovation.

        At best his entire party is corrupt but he won’t condemn them, at worst he is extremely corrupt

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            5 days ago

            Brazil has multiple parties. I myself voted for another left candidate. The problem is that everyone has been brainwashed into only considering 2 candidates

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              That sucks, I think presidential systems tend favor 2 parties/coalitions, is there any chance continuous elections between 2 bad choices could lead to that kind of reform, I think most presidential weakenings were in former USSR countries as they understandibly didn’t want to have presidents getting too strong.

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                Believe or not bolsonaro (father) is from a party that wasnt one of the main 2 so there is a chance of breaking the duopoly, unfortunately as you can see, that doesnt always improve the situation (its just a different duopoly now)

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                  3 days ago

                  Many such cases, you can vote in a new party in a 2 party system (the Two round system is better for this than FPTP), but it’s next to impossible to break the 2 party dynamic that is sort of inevitable when you have a strong president, almost everyone is going to have to pick a side.