• trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      Standard practice for the FSB, and I would be very surprised if Mossad and CIA amongst others didn’t do similar things.

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        23 hours ago

        Classic. “If you don’t do as I say I will hurt you.”

        “Fuck you!”

        “Ok. I will hurt your mother…”

        It’s dark and ancient.

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              16 hours ago

              Whatever you think of their competence, I’m quite confident they have resorted to threatening family members on multiple occasions.

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            From everything I’ve read of the CIA, incompetent is downplaying it.

            They’re monsters, that cannot be said enough. But incompetent monsters.

            Their modus operandi mostly seems to be using proxies and cutouts. The CIA would never threaten your family. Instead they hand out guns to the people who already hate you and your family, and then sort of just hope for the best.

            They also do abductions to black sites, but mostly they seem to be the logistics service of evil giving out money, guns, and drugs to, well, often literal Nazis.

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              It’s very important to understand that no one anywhere knows what the fuck they’re doing the moment a problem is anything more than engineering.

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              16 hours ago

              I never said the CIA is incompetent. Please don’t assume I’m in any way related to the US.

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              The CIA is a masterclass in spying and recruiting, primarily as a result of practically unlimited funding. They utilize all the novel gadgets you hear about — shit like lasers bouncing off windows to record audio, or reconstructing video from a cameras electromagnetic radiation, or using WiFi to target individuals within a room, or …

              But it goes a lot further. They will open entire business fronts in foreign states and maintain them for the sake of fronting. They will send spy’s into other nations to assume a role as a local and casually collect information. They will survey people like janitors, assistants, … for anything of leverage… kid sick with cancer? They’ll pay for treatment at the best hospitals in the world to recruit you, if they believe you can get valuable information.

              They’ll go through entire rounds of interviews designed to profile you behaviorally. Their hiring practices have been claimed to actually weed in people with sociopathic tendencies — people with a sort of main character complex who can adequately justify doing bad things because “we’re the good guys” and for “national security.”

              The shit they’ve gotten away with is bonkers. Files are constantly being released over the years, we have glimpses into their operations, yet we do nothing to instigate meaningful change. It’s bonkers. You know they were testing hypothetical truth serum on customers in American coffee shops?

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        Pretty cool how this turned from the FSB to the CIA in two whole comments.

        Effective operation.

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          I was just pointing out that these practices should not be surprising anyone. CIA and Mossad are the most well known intelligence agencies in the world, what others should I have named that people would recognize?

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            20 hours ago

            Oh you think the FSB is bad? Well so is the CIA.

            Fucking stupid how many upvotes these comments are getting

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            23 hours ago

            You’re right. The original article is completely excusable because, as you say, everyone does it.

            Well made point you have there.