Iran says it has launched retaliatory strikes against two US military bases in Jordan after US forces hit rocket launchers on Iran’s strategic Larak Island.

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    Bruh Iran is the enemy of freedom! Ask any Iranian

    Edit: these down votes are eye opening. Y’all weird about the truth

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      First, that is completely off-topic. Second, America is also the enemy of freedom. Ask any Iranian, or Palestinian, or Latin American, or… you get the point.

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        There’s not that much freedom in America for many Americans. Same in the UK who are throwing the terrorism label around a little too freely and have restricted the right to protest a lot.

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        I have friends from Iran living in the USA and they were really excited for their family back home to finally be free. Now, they are a bit disappointed that it’s not happening

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          Turns out freedom bombing doesn’t actually bring freedom, who woulda thunk?

          PS: This is not to say the Iranian regime is good, only that American puppet regimes don’t bring freedom. Iranian freedom will have to come from Iranians themselves; foreign interference only serves to strengthen the regime, as it already has.

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            USA relied on France to gain independence from Britain. Hell the former Iranian president was working with USA to free his own country from tyranny

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              Ho Chi Minh thought the US would help him liberate his country from French colonial rule because the US claims to care about freedom and self-determination

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                Perhaps everyone should have seen that the liberty and justice for all was not true from the start. Yes, better than others at times, but still so much violence, betrayal, lies, brutality, etc. which was hypocritical to the supposed values, others they failed to do: turn the other cheek, help the needy and outcasts, first will be last, love thy neighbors…

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              Ahmadinejad was picked by the US to be the next head of government. Until they bombed him to shit. There is no evidence beyond that for collaboration. Hell, Ahmadinejad was one of the most oppressive PMs Iran had, not that PMs have much influence on day to day politics anyway.

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              Mohammed Pahlavi was Shah, not President, and he was a tyrannical autocrat himself. One of the royal titles for the Shah is literally “Center of the Universe” lmao

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                Wow you are not current with your events. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was in communications with the United States about becoming leader when the government was toppled

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              The USA got it’s freedom from Britain hundreds of years ago. The world has changed a lot since then. It’s also one thing to get help from a country when requested or they a offer and it’s accepted, vs blowing up a country and claiming it’s providing them freedom. It’s not an apples to apples comparison.

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          Iraqis were also excited in 2003. Look how that turned out for them.

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              I mean they have elections, but so does Russia, do you consider Russia to be a democracy?

              US puppet regimes always put on a flimsy facade of “democracy” and “freedom” but it is pure naivete to think that’s what anyone in charge actually cares about.

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                Well Iraq is not a puppet state though. If anything they are a democracy that has connections with Iran. So the United States doesn’t even meddle with it! It’s free to do as people see fit as long as they call the Constitution

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              1.5 million dead Iraqis, infrastructure is worse than it was before the war. The US invasion was one of the worst possible ends to Saddam’s reign.

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      Sadly, so is the US. Real change comes from within. If the people can’t make it themselves. If they’re relying on someone else to give it to him. They’ll never get it. This goes for Americans as much as Iranians.

      All anyone needs to do is look at how many different times over how many different decades we rug pulled the kurds. In Bosnia and elsewhere. Our government serves its interests only and then it gets out. It doesn’t really care about freedom.

      And I think a lot of the push back you’re getting, is that specifically in this case. Its the United States and it’s meddling is the cause of a lot of their problems. They revolutioned themselves into this as a result. Only another revolutionary change on their part will change it. Hopefully a more informed, less reactionary one.

      Honestly I originally read your post with a sarcastic tone.

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          Domestically, Iran is worse, but internationally, the US has been the biggest detriment to human freedom since the end of world war 2.

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          I agree. While Iran has fomented unrest elsewhere. They’ve never been as boots on the ground and directly engaged with it as the United States has.

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      until I read your edit I thought you were being sarcastic. Im not saying they are not bad but we are the agressors here. We caused the problem and are exacerbating it.