• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    23 hours ago

    Ok. Instead of just criticizing, what’s your solution? Don’t say just throw more money at the problem or hire more teachers. Pretend you’re the teacher. If you tell the principal, “just hire more teachers,” you’ll be laughed at to your face.

    So, what is your solution?

    You going to investigate every tardy? Every kid will say it’s not their fault. Some will be telling the truth. Some will be lying. How do you separate the two? Do you call the parents to verify the excuse?

    How quickly can you do that? Can you perform a mini disciplinary investigation in five minutes? Let’s assume you can. Well you have 30 students in each class and five of them are late. And you teach six classes. So you have 30 tardies you need to investigate, 5 minutes each. You’ve just signed yourself up for two and a half hours of phone calls to parents. And many you’ll have to call several times, as they work their own jobs and aren’t available at the drop of a hat.

    So what exactly is your solution? It’s easy to criticize. But if you’re going to criticize, you should propose your own solution, if even just to indicate you have any idea what you are talking about.

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      23 hours ago

      It’s not a teacher’s job to do any of this, because of the problems you stated. Even the smallest schools have some kind of administrator, typically waaaaaaaay too many because administrative bloat is academia’s favorite activity. It is 100% a school administrator/secretary’s job to call parents when kids have a tardiness issue.

      What isn’t acceptable is just being shitty to children because life isn’t fair. Thats just abuser behavior.

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        22 hours ago

        Again, notice the assumption of infinite resources. You assume that these resources always exist, and that those resources aren’t being used for something else. You fail to recognize opportunity cost.

        Someone is going to have to spend 2.5 hours calling all those parents. Whether it’s the teacher or someone in the office staff is immaterial. And that someone could be doing other things, like helping a teacher out with instructional duties. If you have 30 classrooms in a school, that means your office will be making 75 hours of calls to parents every single day. You’ll need to hire ten people just to call all the parents. Do you really think the best we can do with our scarce education dollars is to pay ten people to do nothing but call and investigate tardy excuses?

        Having anyone spend that much time litigating every tardy excuse simply isn’t a very good use of tax dollars. There are better things to spend money on that will do more to help kids. Far better to just have a certain number of excused absences and not have to worry about investigating every single excuse.

        What isn’t acceptable is just being shitty to children because life isn’t fair. Thats just abuser behavior.

        It’s a perfectly fair system. You have a certain number of free absences, free late homework assignments, etc. This way if shit happens, students can have a few ooopsies without it affecting their grades. Instead of litigating every incident, you just give a certain number of freebies.

        This is a perfectly fair system. It’s not being shitty to kids. It’s just deliberately designing a system so you don’t always have to assign blame.