All boxers, including Algeria’s Imane Khelif, who won Olympic gold last summer amid scrutiny over a disputed failed gender eligibility test conducted by a different body, will be unable to compete without a test which reveals their biological sex.

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      In fairness, no one cares if a women wants to compete against the men generally. But yeah. Still dumb.

      Oh and the guys would probably be all for it. They be bragging the whole time no matter what they’re packing.

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        Oh and the guys would probably be all for it. They be bragging the whole time no matter what they’re packing.

        Like guys who drive big trucks… Guys who like to fight are likely compensating for something. I don’t think they want people looking 🤣

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    By that definition all trans-men would be eligible to compete in the women’s competition and would result in a man beating up a woman… the very same fucking thing that this is about.

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    Horseshit headline. There isn’t a genetic test that “reveals biological sex” because biological sex is not strictly genetic. That’s why they stopped doing genetic tests in the 1980s.

    The headline should read “Competitors will participate in performative pseudoscience to appease bigots.”

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      I’m honestly confused about what you’re asserting here. For my daughter, they did a blood test on my wife in order to tell us that we’re having a daughter instead of a son. Doesn’t that mean that there IS in fact a genetic test that “reveals biological sex”?

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        So there’s a relatively miniscule fraction of people who have unexpected outcomes that you wouldn’t expect based on their genetics, e.g due to some unexpected hormonal activity during fetal development.

        For almost every birth, the biological concept of sex is a straightforward conclusion from genetics, so, by and large, a genetic test is accurate. But there have been cases that never got genetic tests and from all assessments were biologically female, but find out later they had XY. Maybe because they never hit puberty, or while trying to diagnose infertility, but something drove a deeper look.

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          FYI, Intersex people (those born with nonbinary sex characteristics such as sexual anatomy, reproductive organs, hormonal patterns and/or chromosomal patterns) are approximately 1.7% of the general population.

          By comparison, red hair occurs at similar rates, and accounts for between 1 - 2% of the general population.

          When you consider how many people with red hair you may have met in your life, on average, you have also met a similar number of intersex people, whether you knew it at the time or not.

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          That “relatively miniscule fraction” is over-represented in sports, as the hormonal edge cases of humanity can end up being stronger/faster/bigger than the typical humans.

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        Looks like it’s time to pull out the chart again…

        Source.

        The test is for the SRY gene, which may not be active on a Y gene, among other things. There are 2 or 3 points on that chart that are relevant to your question.

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      It might be fun to be the doctor giving the confirmation. Like, “congratulations person, you have met the minimum requirements to be recognized as a male competitor in the sport competition.”

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      Of course not, because no one AFAB could ever compete with a real man in anything ever, so there’s no point because the silly little transmen will never be able to measure up. /s

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      No. We are only subjecting women to uncomfortable, humiliating shit so that we can isolate and torture minorities as much as possible.

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    🤖 THIS IS THE GENITAL POLICE. PLEASE REMOVE YOUR UNDERWEAR AND SUBMIT FOR EXAMINATION. FAILURE TO COMPLY WILL RESULT IN DENIAL OF ACCESS TO ALL BATHROOMS ON THE PREMISES AND A REPORT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF GENDER CONFORMITY ENFORCEMENT. 🤖

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      They aren’t. The female boxer everyone bitches about was, in fact, born female.

      https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/articles/cye0ex43k63o

      "Khelif has always competed in the women’s division and is recognised by the IOC as a female athlete.

      “The Algerian boxer was born female, was registered female, lived her life as a female, boxed as a female, has a female passport,” IOC spokesperson Mark Adams said on Friday.

      “This is not a transgender case. There has been some confusion that somehow it’s a man fighting a woman. This is just not the case. On that there is consensus, scientifically this is not a man fighting a woman.”"

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/false-accusations-surrounding-olympic-boxer-highlight-debate-around-gender-and-sports

      "Mark Adams, Spokesperson, International Olympic Committee:

      The Algerian boxer was born female, was registered female, lived her life as a female, boxed as a female, has a female passport. This is not a transgender case.

      William Brangham:

      Amid the attacks, Khelif’s father came to his daughter’s defense.

      Amar Khelif, Father of Imane Khelif (through interpreter): This is our official family document, May 2, 1999, Imane Khelif, a female. It is written here. You can read it. This document doesn’t lie. The people who are lying and leading a fierce campaign against her are the enemies of God. The attacks against her are immoral, it is not fair.

      Imane is a little girl that has loved sport since she was 6 years old."

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          You aren’t allowed to spread transphobic lies about people. Do it again and you’ll ve banned. This is a warning.

          Edit You know what? Fuck it. 1 day old account from lemmy.club? An instance that gets trolls all the time? Banned.

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      Why can’t you refer to people as transgender/trans-women in this discussion? You want to take the position that its unfair competition, fine we can talk about that. But when you refer to all transgender women as “males” you just come off as a troll or an asshole. That’s why people are downvoting you, not because we all love seeing women getting beaten up…