Still, I haven’t defended Russia, that’s your own very ignorant misrepresentation based on your prejudices you yourself just listed. You just don’t like to hear dissenting opinions regarding this war and that fact alone should make you stop and wonder.
Also, may I suggest to focus on the substance of the commentary, and not on the messenger? And the substance is: this post’s source is a narrative shaping pro-war think tank and you people consume it like it’s ice cream.
When I come across communities like this (especially this one), the black and white thinking and rabid hate towards anything not riling in unison against this evil Pudding guy or Ruzzia is …it’s quite extreme. I like the term westremism, because that’s what it is, really.
People are not accepting anything, that discredits the holyness of the US-European mission to support and usurp Ukraine, while also falling over themselves to eat up every little news reinforcing the negative default towards the enemy, which sure, here now is Russia. But we can play the same game with Palestine, Libanon, Syria, Mali, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran or China … we could go on. Gobbling up all the hate towards other groups, solely because it’s what is being fed to them, or to feel better about the horrific geopolitical conduct of the US and Europe around the world, in case they actually got a faint idea. I implore you to get informed how the West is seen from outside.
I’m pointing out this kind of hypocrisy in the hope that some people manage to stop hating, stop confidently trotting their government’s pushed narratives and start wondering, what’s actually going on.
But lemmy.world indeed is quite extreme in that regard. All you need to do is point out that the source of this post is a hawkish, neoconservative US based think tank, implying that they have a mission to paint a specific picture, and the crowd goes wild. It’s a ridiculous state of affairs.
You just don’t like to hear dissenting opinions regarding this war and that fact alone should make you stop and wonder.
No, I’m fine with that. I’m not fine with people saying anything critical of Russia is only critical of Russia because it’s western propaganda. Your criticism of me here seems to be projection.
Gobbling up all the hate towards other groups, solely because it’s what is being fed to them, or to feel better about the horrific geopolitical conduct of the US and Europe around the world, in case they actually got a faint idea. I implore you to get informed how the West is seen from outside.
Again, this seems to be projection. If you read through my comments you’ll see I’m almost always on the side of the people defending against imperialism. It just so happens that Ukraine is one of these in this case. I also side with Palestine, Lebanon, Venezuela, Cuba, and not with Iran, but against what is being done to them. If you can defend these groups, but you don’t see how Ukraine defending itself is right, then you’ve got something fucked up going on with you.
Projection, alrighty then. Interesting then, how you thought it was important to enter this thread to point out something I did not do for a country I’m not even living in, nor am ideologically aligned with.
So, let’s do this, mister moral police officer.
I’m not fine with people saying anything critical of Russia is only critical of Russia because it’s western propaganda.
Dunno, doesn’t sound like anything I’ve said or done. So why are you “not fine” with me?
If you read through my comments you’ll see I’m almost always on the side of the people defending against imperialism.
“Almost”, lol. I’m sure you have a solid moral compass, but that doesn’t mean that your analysis is well informed or sound or that your world view is principled anti-imperialist. I think you’re just outraged and now need an explanation for lashing out. I’m good with what you’re delivering right now, tho, I don’t need your comment history for your defense (which, I’m certain, would also not prove, what you hope it would).
Right now, you’re inserting yourself in defence of US imperialism, not a good look in that regard.
It just so happens that Ukraine is one of these in this case.
Okay, do you want to start a debate on the nature of the Ukraine war now? Although, this does have nothing to do with the substance of my original critique on how people, in general, behave in this community. You know, it was the moment when you jumped in.
If you can defend these groups, but you don’t see how Ukraine defending itself is right, then you’ve got something fucked up going on with you.
Ya, come to think of it, I’m sure we have different understandings of what imperialism actually is. You think Ukraine is defending itself against the imperialist Russia, alright. End of the story, end of discussion, nothing more to it? Because, I don’t understand, how you’re trying to make this point, since I’ve certainly never said, that the Ukrainian state is not defending itself. You’re moralizing against a strawman.
This is only bad for Putin if he cares about Russian people. He doesn’t, so it’s not a failure. This was/is about legacy building. He’s a modern emperor fighting an endless war because admitting defeat would look bad.
Ah fuck, I shouldn’t have looked. Pudding, the modern emperor with the weak ego. Case closed, world politics explained.
and not with Iran, but against what is being done to them.
Why tho? Why no critical support for Iran, after all the country being attacked by an imperial superpower. Why do you differentiate here? Maybe we should send them Billions and all the weapons they need, what do you think? Maybe we should send all the over countries Billions and all the weapons they need, what do you think? Why do it for Ukraine but none of the others?
Still, I haven’t defended Russia, that’s your own very ignorant misrepresentation based on your prejudices you yourself just listed. You just don’t like to hear dissenting opinions regarding this war and that fact alone should make you stop and wonder.
Also, may I suggest to focus on the substance of the commentary, and not on the messenger? And the substance is: this post’s source is a narrative shaping pro-war think tank and you people consume it like it’s ice cream.
When I come across communities like this (especially this one), the black and white thinking and rabid hate towards anything not riling in unison against this evil Pudding guy or Ruzzia is …it’s quite extreme. I like the term westremism, because that’s what it is, really.
People are not accepting anything, that discredits the holyness of the US-European mission to support and usurp Ukraine, while also falling over themselves to eat up every little news reinforcing the negative default towards the enemy, which sure, here now is Russia. But we can play the same game with Palestine, Libanon, Syria, Mali, Venezuela, Cuba, Iran or China … we could go on. Gobbling up all the hate towards other groups, solely because it’s what is being fed to them, or to feel better about the horrific geopolitical conduct of the US and Europe around the world, in case they actually got a faint idea. I implore you to get informed how the West is seen from outside. I’m pointing out this kind of hypocrisy in the hope that some people manage to stop hating, stop confidently trotting their government’s pushed narratives and start wondering, what’s actually going on.
But lemmy.world indeed is quite extreme in that regard. All you need to do is point out that the source of this post is a hawkish, neoconservative US based think tank, implying that they have a mission to paint a specific picture, and the crowd goes wild. It’s a ridiculous state of affairs.
No, I’m fine with that. I’m not fine with people saying anything critical of Russia is only critical of Russia because it’s western propaganda. Your criticism of me here seems to be projection.
Again, this seems to be projection. If you read through my comments you’ll see I’m almost always on the side of the people defending against imperialism. It just so happens that Ukraine is one of these in this case. I also side with Palestine, Lebanon, Venezuela, Cuba, and not with Iran, but against what is being done to them. If you can defend these groups, but you don’t see how Ukraine defending itself is right, then you’ve got something fucked up going on with you.
Projection, alrighty then. Interesting then, how you thought it was important to enter this thread to point out something I did not do for a country I’m not even living in, nor am ideologically aligned with.
So, let’s do this, mister moral police officer.
Dunno, doesn’t sound like anything I’ve said or done. So why are you “not fine” with me?
“Almost”, lol. I’m sure you have a solid moral compass, but that doesn’t mean that your analysis is well informed or sound or that your world view is principled anti-imperialist. I think you’re just outraged and now need an explanation for lashing out. I’m good with what you’re delivering right now, tho, I don’t need your comment history for your defense (which, I’m certain, would also not prove, what you hope it would).
Right now, you’re inserting yourself in defence of US imperialism, not a good look in that regard.
Okay, do you want to start a debate on the nature of the Ukraine war now? Although, this does have nothing to do with the substance of my original critique on how people, in general, behave in this community. You know, it was the moment when you jumped in.
Ya, come to think of it, I’m sure we have different understandings of what imperialism actually is. You think Ukraine is defending itself against the imperialist Russia, alright. End of the story, end of discussion, nothing more to it? Because, I don’t understand, how you’re trying to make this point, since I’ve certainly never said, that the Ukrainian state is not defending itself. You’re moralizing against a strawman.
Ah fuck, I shouldn’t have looked. Pudding, the modern emperor with the weak ego. Case closed, world politics explained.
Why tho? Why no critical support for Iran, after all the country being attacked by an imperial superpower. Why do you differentiate here? Maybe we should send them Billions and all the weapons they need, what do you think? Maybe we should send all the over countries Billions and all the weapons they need, what do you think? Why do it for Ukraine but none of the others?