• Katana314@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    One of my ideas for slowing the rate of meat consumption: You may only buy meat if you are under the age of 18, or you have a Meat Medallion.

    Medallions are obtained by successfully killing an animal over the size of a rat, on your own, with only close-ranged weaponry.

    That put you off? Good! It should! Some people would still stomach it.

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      1 day ago

      I like the idea of having a trial to prove understanding, but it sounds like needless cruelty. Maybe a day of work in an abattoir would be better.

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        1 day ago

        I mean, if you believe killing animals is needless cruelty, then…should that mean you just shouldn’t eat meat?

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          17 hours ago

          It was needless cruelty before you started giving out tokens for it. Now I need to go kill bunch of possums every year just so I can have dinner! You literally created extra cruelty.

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            16 hours ago

            Where did you read “every year”?

            Why do you need to kill “a bunch” of possums instead of just one? Do you eat possum meat? Why not a chicken?

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              16 hours ago

              Where did you read “every year”?

              You didn’t really specify how how much stuff you have to kill to get the medallions, but it sounds like a hassle, so I’d like to get them in bulk.

              Do you eat possum meat? Why not a chicken?

              Again, I’m not planing to eat what I kill right away, I just need the credit for later and you just said bigger than a rat. But sure, chicken works.

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                15 hours ago

                It sounds like you read “you must spend one medallion to purchase meat”, which isn’t what I said. I said you must “have” one. Much like you must have ID to buy liquor - but you don’t see people in line at the DMV grinding for extra drivers licenses.

                I see I’m going to have to explain things multiple times to stop other commenters from hallucinating. So, again: You must have a meat medallion. Not spend it. Have. Not spend. Have. Two distinct words.

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          20 hours ago

          I was thinking more about amateurs trying and making a mess of things. Although modern abattoirs aren’t much better so you’re not wrong.

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      1 day ago

      Fair enough. I’m on board if we also don’t allow the purchase of any plant based products to anyone who hasn’t put in a season working in the fields. If I can’t exploit Porky for meat without having skin in the game, you can’t exploit Manuel for labor without doing the same.

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      2 days ago

      What’s the meat allotment per Medallion? It sounds like abstracted hunting

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        1 day ago

        Infinite. Whatever you can afford with your wallet.

        The point being only people who have one may buy it in restaurants/etc.

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          1 day ago

          Ah, it’s more a “license” than a “token”. Then, it should expire at the end of the year.

          Plenty of people will continue to take things for granted, if it’s not reinforced.

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            15 hours ago

            Do drivers’ licenses expire at the end of the year? Why such a short expiry?

            People take things for granted now. If it’s a move in the right direction, why make it far more restrictive than it needs to be?

            Even just 20% of meat eaters reconsidering their habits would be fantastic, or another 30% getting the medallion but looking at meat consumption differently as a result.

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              13 hours ago

              Well, driver’s licenses are certifications that you know how to drive (and also are in a location). In theory, by using your license, you are practicing and reinforcing your driving skill. It’s not really the same.

              I have a squirrelly brain, prone to imagining how things go wrong. Immediately, I thought of parents guiding their children to get their medallion before the kids can really process what they’re doing, or establish their own desire to do it. By the time they’re 30, it’ll just be something they unpack if they ever take therapy.

              And I’m saying this as someone who eats meat. I’m not even a vegetarian. I just agree with vegans that the way industry batch-farms animals is grotesque.

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                12 hours ago

                Did you read?…Specifically the part where I specifically included the stipulation where people don’t need one under the age of 18, because I know that people online will nitpick ideas even knowing that any genuine legislation would get a dozen logical caveats to it?