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    If you think it’s a slur then you dom’t understand the meaning of the term. Or how argentinians use it, at least. No more facts for now though. Thanks for asking!

    Oh yeah, one more thing, it’s funny how you’re just taken aback by the term by can’t even refute it or understand your own mental simplicity. I needed a laugh today :)

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      My grandparents lived in South America for a decade. They were called “Gallegos” every other day, which they were, because they were from Galicia. Argentinians specifically used the term as a synonym for “simpleton”.

      I would like to know if you really think that a slur is the appropriate response to someone making fun of the Argentinian national team after an awful performance.

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        I honestly don’t know how you could be more mistaken. Given your condition, allow me to explain.

        Gallego can be used simply to say that a person is from spain (regardless of where in spain). It is also colloquially used when someone does something very dumb or fails to understand something very simple. It’s directed at the action, not the person and even though it is related to spain, it’s not because we hat spain. Is it weird that we don’t consider it offensive or a slur? Yeah. Is it the only “insult” or whatever that we use like that? Nope. The word “negro” is also used in so many ways that I can’t keep count.

        In your specific case, you seem to fail to grasp the concept of people travelling to different countries without losing ther nationality. I clearly said that I watched in rome and spaniards barely celebrated. It’s obvious that I was referring to actual spaniards watching it in rome. But you keep repeating “rome isn’t spain”? Are you trying to tell me that you know first grade geography or just that you lack any sort of reading comprehension skills?

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          The word “negro” is also used in so many ways that I can’t keep count.

          This is awesome he just can’t stop digging. My guy, you’re doubling down on top of your mistake of not understanding that calling someone a “Gallego” as an insult is offensive to people.

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            My guy, it’s offensive because you don’t get it. It’s fine. I don’t care. I’ll keep using it and you’ll keep crying about it.

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              I am 100% sure that you will keep using it, you and people like you lack the self analysis skills to be able to change your behaviour. The reason you think it’s inoffensive is that you stay in your bubble of 'Tanos and haven’t spent more than half an hour with an afrodescendent person.

              I would love for you to have a black Argentinian friend that you have long conversations with and bring up that word in multiple contexts and see how he reacts. The problem is that you lack the skills to be able to process their discomfort.

              Meanwhile, I’d love for you to explain what a “chiste de gallego” is like without making it seem like nothing more than an excuse to punch down on people from Spain.

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                I’ve spent more than half an hour with people from all around the world and have not had a single issue with any of them.

                I would love for you to have a black Argentinian friend

                In case you didn’t know, there aren’t virtually any people with black skin (unless they recently immigrated) precisely because we’re not racist. Most, if not all, argentinians are of “mixed” race.

                I’d love for you to explain what a “chiste de gallego” is like

                Sorry for making jokes about the people that killed indigenous people of south america, robbed them and were pushed out barely over 200 years ago. My deepest apologies for your thin skin.

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                  black people? What black people?

                  It is a tragedy what the Spaniards did to the natives.

                  Uuuh-huh.

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                    The natives of Argentina were not black. Africans were brought to the region as slaves and Argentina received a very small number of them. As soon as we could, when we got rid of spain anf wrote our constitution, slavery was abolished.

                    No one looks down or discriminates black people in argentina. Don’t believe random lies you read on the internet. Also, read a book before spouting nonsense about a country you know nothing about.

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          It is also colloquially used when someone does something very dumb or fails to understand something very simple.

          Yeah, and you are asking me why I would be offended by that, after you suggested that the term is derogatory.

          Is it the only “insult” or whatever that we use like that? Nope.

          Not really helping your case here, are you.

          But you keep repeating “rome isn’t spain”?

          Literally typed that once.

          Are you trying to tell me that you know first grade geography or just that you lack any sort of reading comprehension skills?

          I don’t know what to say to this. You are assuming some things that aren’t at all true, and projecting about the rest.

          Are you OK?

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            It is derogatory but not an insult. It’s what we call a “gastada”. The type of thing you say to someone being too naive, dumb, etc. If it gets to you that much, I don’t know what to say. It’s not that bad, get over it.

            Literally typed that once.

            You need to say it more than once to sound obtuse?

            I don’t know what to say to this.

            There’s nothing you can say. Yout tried the shoe on and it was the perfect size. Nationality matched and everything. Sometimes stereotypes exist for a reason xD

            Are you OK?

            Wonderful. Thanks for asking :)

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              So it is derogatory, got it.

              You need to say it more than once to sound obtuse?

              You said that I “kept saying that Rome is not in Spain”, which is not true. And why do I even need to read your own messages back to you? You can write but not read?

              Sometimes stereotypes exist for a reason xD

              I guess it sometimes is true.

              There’s this joke we tell in Spain: how did the Argentinian commit suicide? They jumped from the top of their own ego.

              Let me know when you can back that ego up, instead of outsourcing it to a team full of little whiny bitches who can barely kick a ball. In the meantime, enjoy being second.

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                So it is derogatory, got it.

                It’s our type of humour. You don’t get it, it’s fine. We even insult ourselves sometimes. If it offends you it’s your problem, not mine.

                “And why am I even need to read your own messages to you?” Did you get an aneurysm? I think I understood what you meant. And yeah, instead of saying that you “kept” saying that, I should’ve said that you “still” said it. Making that type of remark only implies that you’re pretty obtuse. Do things always have to be explicitly laid out for you to understand it? Way to keep a legacy alive xD

                There’s this joke we tell in Spain: how did the Argentinian commit suicide? They jumped from the top of their own ego.

                Oh nooooo they’re telling me I have self-esteem. How will I ever sleep??? We know that one and we laugh about it too.

                Let me know when you can back that ego up, instead of outsourcing it to a team full of little whiny bitches who can barely kick a ball. In the meantime, enjoy being second.

                How are argentinians the “whining bitches” if we’re not the ones rolling on the ground, complaining about referees and celebrating other nation’s accomplishments? I’m damn proud of us being 2nd and I can’t explain why because you’ve made it clear that you’ll never understand it.

                Also, “barely kick a ball”? We’re the tesm with the most goals in the tournament and the best matches too (even if we sucked and spain shone last night). Celebrate your victory, have fun, but don’t be delusional. It will bite you in the ass.