Four years after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the Russian economy is showing clear signs of structural exhaustion. The contours of a genuine economic endgame are coming into view for Russia. This is the finding of a new Kiel Report published by the Kiel Institute for the World Economy and the Stockholm Institute of Transition Economics.
  • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
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    4 hours ago

    Here are a whole bunch of people claiming exactly that:

    No they don’t, have you even read those articles?

    They make claims that are completely factual.

    Not the comment you initially replied to, is it? Disingenuous #3

    The original comment I replied to had a quote of Von der Leyen that you implied was making claims it didn’t.

    You know the end goal is to stop the war. That hasn’t happened.

    And you keep implying that sanctions aren’t having the effect of bringing that end sooner, which they do.

    So the message that they have hit their war economy limits is false

    You cannot possibly know if they’ve hit their limits because you can’t see the future. So you cannot say that this message is false.

    You keep saying that people have made that claim before, and it was false then, so it must be false now. But as your own sources show, nobody made this claim before.

    • Photonic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      43 minutes ago

      No they don’t, have you even read those articles?

      I have, have you? And here I was thinking asking questions was illegal.

      that you implied was making claims it didn’t.

      Yes. So not a question. Thank you. You started out by asking question and then get mad when someone asks a question in return that you can’t and won’t answer.

      you keep implying that sanctions aren’t having the effect of bringing that end sooner, which they do.

      Citation needed. The point is they have never proven to end wars sooner.

      you cannot say that this message is false.

      I said I will believe it when I see it. I have not seen the war ending because of the economy. Ergo: limit not yet hit. I don’t get why this is so hard for you.

      But as your own sources show, nobody made this claim before.

      Only to someone who can’t read…

      • Vergissmeinnicht@lemmy.caEnglish
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        23 minutes ago

        I have, have you? And here I was thinking asking questions was illegal.

        Quote from the first article you posted

        Not only is Russia far from being penniless, its economy is growing

        So no, it’s not saying that the economy has reached its limits, who you have not “heard it before”

        it supports the opposite of the point you’re trying to make.