You are right. Though it’s not entirely on Google, but also on whoever develops/publishes the app. It can be done without reliance on Google, it’s just easier to use their stuff aa a crutch (at least that’s what I’ve been told.
I use GrapheneOS (with their sandboxed Google Play) and I had minimal issues. On completely degoogled one there was more issues, but something that could be worked around. I imagine with microG it would be smoother (Graphene doesn’t allow it so I couldn’t test).
It is harder than stock Android for sure but I’ll be damned if I just give up. It’s now a matter of principle for me now.
And yes, Linux will be likely even harder but I’m considering it for my next step at this point - exactly because Google is making it harder on Androids and I feel like if you want to really escape their data-hungry fingers you just need to get out of their reach as much as possible. And while there isn’t the same ecosystem available as Android has, there are workarounds for now.
The way I see it, a fully Linux phone would be the next obvious step. If EU want’s to ditch American Big Tech properly, you need to run Linux with no ties to Android or Google at all. This means that you need to have native Linux apps for doing all the basic necessities of modern life. Either that, or the necessities need to function properly as a website, better yet, a web app.
Anyway, I would like to hear more about your experiences with GrapheneOS. Which types of apps had issues?
I had an issue with one banking app, but that might be because I had the second degoogled user going at that time as I tried to see how some of my apps worked that didn’t have any data on if they work or not.
I also had issues with a game called Root, Play store suddenly said it was not compatible but I installed via Aurora while spoifing a different phone and it continues to work fine.
There were some minor hiccups on some apps that were fixed by disabling some exploit protections built into Graphene (a simple Exploit protection compatibility mode toggle in the app settings).
Overall I’m really happy and if I wasn’t concerned about Google further closing down the Android ecosystem, I wouldn’t be considering switching. I never had a situation where I thought I’d be better off on stock Android
You are right. Though it’s not entirely on Google, but also on whoever develops/publishes the app. It can be done without reliance on Google, it’s just easier to use their stuff aa a crutch (at least that’s what I’ve been told.
I use GrapheneOS (with their sandboxed Google Play) and I had minimal issues. On completely degoogled one there was more issues, but something that could be worked around. I imagine with microG it would be smoother (Graphene doesn’t allow it so I couldn’t test).
It is harder than stock Android for sure but I’ll be damned if I just give up. It’s now a matter of principle for me now.
And yes, Linux will be likely even harder but I’m considering it for my next step at this point - exactly because Google is making it harder on Androids and I feel like if you want to really escape their data-hungry fingers you just need to get out of their reach as much as possible. And while there isn’t the same ecosystem available as Android has, there are workarounds for now.
The way I see it, a fully Linux phone would be the next obvious step. If EU want’s to ditch American Big Tech properly, you need to run Linux with no ties to Android or Google at all. This means that you need to have native Linux apps for doing all the basic necessities of modern life. Either that, or the necessities need to function properly as a website, better yet, a web app.
Anyway, I would like to hear more about your experiences with GrapheneOS. Which types of apps had issues?
I had an issue with one banking app, but that might be because I had the second degoogled user going at that time as I tried to see how some of my apps worked that didn’t have any data on if they work or not.
I also had issues with a game called Root, Play store suddenly said it was not compatible but I installed via Aurora while spoifing a different phone and it continues to work fine.
There were some minor hiccups on some apps that were fixed by disabling some exploit protections built into Graphene (a simple Exploit protection compatibility mode toggle in the app settings).
Overall I’m really happy and if I wasn’t concerned about Google further closing down the Android ecosystem, I wouldn’t be considering switching. I never had a situation where I thought I’d be better off on stock Android