• ᓚᘏᗢ@piefed.social
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      20 hours ago

      How often do you see women walking around with their fully natural hairy legs on display?

      I get the feeling we might be talking at cross purposes here, just to clarify, could you please briefly explain what you believe the terms ‘patriarchal society’ and ’ social norms’ to mean?

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        19 hours ago

        You’re asserting that society demands that women remove their body hair to look like kids.

        You won’t take an argument that there’s a billion reasons for that action, and reduced half the human population to one will that only you happen to be able to fully know.

        I don’t think I care to humour your request.

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          19 hours ago

          Youth and beauty are the two most valued traits in women by our current society and the older a girl gets, the hairier she becomes. Hairy legs on women are considered disgusting and will cause public reactions.

          Personal and aesthetic reasons for fem presenting folk removing or modifying body hair are completely valid, but these choices are often still being made to fit in to social norms.

          If I, or pretty much any other fem presenting person, go out wearing shorts, we will shave our legs. We don’t shave our legs to look like children, we shave them to not be harrassed in public, because society expects us to be hairless like young girls.

          Can you understand what I’m saying here?

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            4 hours ago

            Can I ask what society you’re referring to here? I stopped shaving my legs at about 25, while in a conservative office in the northeastern US, then moved to Germany. They’re both relatively progressive areas, and I can imagine things might be different in other places, but I haven’t had any problems or confrontations because of my leg hair. I’ve had the occasional remark, sometimes from a man completely out of pocket (mostly telling me they don’t want to fuck me, which is… exactly the situation I want, I guess), but they’re mostly from women, wishing they could do the same. I never know what to say to the latter, except that it’s not as bad as I expected it to be. My armpit hair, on the other hand, has provoked some horrific bile, mostly from men and occasionally from women.

            I don’t really care, because I’m not doing it for approval, but it’s fucked up that people feel entitled to comment on something that absolutely doesn’t concern them and is literally just the path of least resistance for a mammal such as myself.

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              4 minutes ago

              Yes, this is what I am talking about. Body hair on women is treated as grotesque and causes public harrassment. Thank you for providing examples.