• paranoid@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      The intelligence here is the ability for this person to change their core beliefs after seeing, and accepting, facts.

      It matters less how long it took for them to get here, and more that they are here now

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        If it takes a decade to see and accept facts it’s no so much intelligence as an accidental brain neuron firing.

        • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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          I don’t think you’re taking into account the monumental propaganda machine in America. Especially with conservative media, which gradually ramped it up to the point it is at today. This was all planned in the 70s: conservatives knew then that an educated populace spelt doom for the Republican party, so they intentionally created a media machine to brainwash people. Check out the Powell memo.

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        I don’t think people are so much doubting his intelligence as doubting the sincerity of his about-face?

        Is he against Trump because he’s become enlightened, and wishes to renounce all the bigoted ideals Trump championed?

        Or has Trump’s deranged rampage personally hurt him more than he could tolerate? And now he wants a more placid ride?

        It’s hard to say. And I’m not very willing to let a fascist get away scot-free, even if a few reformed racists have to suffer the social consequences of their actions in the meanwhile. It’s not charitable, sure. But fascism is a disease and you don’t eradicate a disease by being charitable when quarantining.

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        I’d say it matters quite a lot that it took them this long to get there. Quite a lot indeed.

        These people should be banned from polite society and be glad that’s all.

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          4 hours ago

          To readers passing by: the opposing views articulated above illustrate two archetypal notions of justice that are both truly ancient and worthy of your consideration.

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          3 hours ago

          Surely there’s nothing in your life that took you a while to understand? Statements like yours always come off as elitist, and its hard to imagine you’d hold yourself to the same standard.

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            It’s ridiculous to me that you think I wouldn’t hold myself to the standards that I already have. Which is to vote for that piece of shit 0 times. I don’t need some sort of secret playbook or cheat codes to understand that a conman is a conman and will always be a conman. Drain the swamp? Dude is the swamp thing.

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              2 hours ago

              Well I hope you intend to ban yourself from polite society when you break your own rule then.

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                1 hour ago

                You sound like somebody who should already be banned from polite society based on the previously described rules. Why should I give a shit what you think? Get the fuck out of here. Destroy your computers, your fridge, your toilet and live in the woods like the animal you are.

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                  19 minutes ago

                  Dont like your own standards applied to yourself? Bummer. You sound like someone with anger problems.