• it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems
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    I can only wish for a less internet-poisoned figurehead of anti-genocide activism, but it’s still amazing to me how a man who spends all his waking hours in front of a webcam is enough of a big deal to be considered a national security threat. This is a man who has spent years in a self-imposed hell of nonstop news clips and hate chatter clapbacks, constantly under attack and arguing with people who hate him, and now the anger is actually coming from a place of power. Hasan is like a guy made in a vat to get in a loud, public fight with the ADL.

    Funny how for all the quotes they pulled, the article couldn’t dig out any instances of the more common traps leftist criticism of Israel falls into, like slipping into ZOG/“Khazar elite” talking points or rants about how murder is “their” culture. It’s honestly just laughable at this point seeing organizations like the ADL try to argue that anyone pointing out the obvious fact that Hamas aren’t baby-eating Islamist rape demons is engaging in religious hatred while geo-targeted online ads from Christian Zionist organizations blast me with “Jesus the messiah will save you” daily. This whole “debate” is a joke, but Hasan is an experienced clown, so he’s in his element.

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      hes pretty much a resistance grifter though, he comes from the burgeoise, his turkish family is wealthy asf, plus cenk ughyger got him a job right out of college on tyt. his fans only like him because they think hes attractive. plus his multimillion dollar home dint come from his own pocket.

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        He’s very open about his financial security though, it’s not like he cosplays as working class. How much money does he actually make? Does he push much merch and shit? I usually only see him in clips.

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      Isn’t this the guy who praises China and the CCP?

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        It’s CPC, and China does a lot right. But people would rather keep CIA narratives than actually learn. Finally, because someone can acknowledge what another nation has done and is doing doesn’t make them “far left.” Western people have been prodded so far right, so slowly that the collective memory of what US “right” and “left” is*, the common purview is anything left of Reagan is “far left.”

        Added a word.

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          China is an authoritarian dictatorship, so if it does anything right that really doesn’t matter.

          Not that the US are better but what a wild stance to just decide to take unprompted

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            The usa is a democracy that is responsible of ton of coups, creation of failed states and murder of millions of people all over the world

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                China is quite possibly less authoritarian than Western governments. All states have and use authority. Better it’s used for the citizens’ housing, health, food, transportation needs than Elon and Bezos.

                Edit: also while discussing authoritarianism, perhaps check the thread title and read the article. This is what Western authoritianism is for and spends.

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                  Authoritarianism is when people are allowed to petition the government with their grievances

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    He said “America deserved 9/11" and Crimea is russian.

    Piker is a tankie clown

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      The Americans that died didn’t deserve it, but the USA absolutely deserved 9/11 and honestly a whole lot more. They are a state sponsor of global capitalist terror.

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        That is not why Binladen and his gang did 9/11. He thought it would trigger a mass conversion to Salafi Islam and a grand new caliphate. But nobody wanted that retro-medieval bullshit any more than they want the US throwing its weight around.

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      The shit the US has been pulling around the world starting decades before 9/11 might have been the reason someone wanted to punch back at the bully.

      But I do not agree regarding Crimea.

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      I thought the consensus was that America definitely deserved 9-11; to be honest with all the shit america has pulled i feel they should have more blowback. but what do i know? I’m not american.

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    The far left has created a climate in which there is no consequence for antisemitism as long as the perpetrator is also anti-Israel.

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      One can say the same for Israel Apologists. People who hate Muslims have created a climate in which there is no way to call out Israel’s atrocities without being accused of being an antisemite.

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        Is it not hillarious that the full blown Zionist is the moderator of /Jewish on .World and does not get banned, but someone else in this thread did get banned for conflating the two

    • A Wild Mimic appears!@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I hate Nazis and their hate.

      I don’t have an issue with Jews.

      I don’t have an issue with the existence of Israel.

      I DO have an issue with Zionists who take what is not theirs, who kill to further their goals, and who manipulate for furthering their Agenda.

      That guy seems to share my views.

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        I agree with you completely, other than the last line. This is a guy who is unapologetic about making bigoted statements about Jews. He was called out on it and doubled down.

        I am bothered by someone speaking out in the guise of being part of my movement thinking it’s fine to say things like that. I am even more bothered by apparent throngs of people who refuse to hold any accountability for antisemitic language repeated in YOUR name (specifically referring to Haredi/religious Jews as “inbred”)

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          Why don’t you fully quote the line where he called Haredi Jews “inbred”? I’m curious about the context now that you’re saying it without any.

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            What context would make it okay for you?

            It’s already linked multiple times in this thread

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        But calling Jews inbred is antisemitic.

        Just look at all of the supposed leftists refusing to distance themselves from this literal antisemitic jerk.

        As long as he is also anti-Israel people seem fine to defend him.

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          He called ethno-religious and racial supremacists Israelis inbred not jews. I don’t like people calling other inbreed but it was not antisemitic

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            No, he specifically called Jews who refused to join the IDF for religious reasons inbred. Watch the clip. But I guess keep defending it.

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              He referred to those ultra-Orthodox sects who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is similar to Trump avoiding the military draft for Vietnam, not because he opposed the war but because he didn’t want to sacrifice his life. He also apologized for using this world. While the UK is allowing people like Eric Zemour who believe in the grand replacement anti Muslims, immigrants and antisemite conspiracy theory and say that Muslims are colonizing Europe .

              The groups mentioned are Zionists groups defending Israel’s colonial policies and fighting anti genocide and colonization people . They defend israel military actions in Gaza and oppose BDS.

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              He referred to those ultraorthodox sect who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is exactly like Trump avoiding military draft for Vietnam not because he opposed the war but because he don’t want to sacrifice his life

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              He referred to those ultraorthodox sect who support the genocide but do not want to be part of the IDF from a position of privilege. This is exactly like Trump avoiding military draft for Vietnam not because he opposed the war but because he don’t want to sacrifice his life

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          He’s not Anti-Semitic, and has given many public speeches against Anti-Semitism. I think you need to do some more research and actually listen to him talk instead of making up stuff or repeating what someone else said about him.

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      The term “antisemitism” has been thrown around so much by Netenyahu and his administration that it has lost all meaning. Much like the boy who cried wolf, the word has lost all meaning, especially so in a world where it is European colonial settler Jews like Netenyahu performing an active genocide against a Semitic population in the Palestinian people.

      Does this make the settler European ruling caste of Jews in Israel the real anti-Semites?

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          What you are calling “religious Jews” are typically referred to as “ultra orthodox Jews”. These communities tend to not marry outside of their community leading to decreased genetic diversity and an increased number of recessive genetic conditions due to the created genetic bottlenecks. These communities have as a result had to resort to pre marital genetic screening services like Dor Yeshorim due to the high levels of local inbreeding in these communities.

          So Mr. Piker was not lying when he was referring to the high levels of inbreeding in these communities. You need to question why your anger has led you to jump to the accusation that this man is a racist when he was stating a well known fact. You can’t just go around accusing everyone you don’t like of being anti semites or racists because eventually you just look uneducated and reactionary.

          There are very real reasons to dislike Israel and Israeli people such as the current and historic genocide against the Palestinian people or their generally disgusting views when interviewed or questioned.

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      Israel, not the far left, has created the atmosphere itself by not obeying international laws, geneva convention or any other law that doesn’t benefit the zionist agenda.