I believe AWS has already tried getting ahead of this by introducing their EU Sovereign Cloud offering. I can imagine regulators would still allow something like this, but time will tell.
Nha that’s not flying. The gag order thingy is still our problem with those « sovereign » clouds… it’s only sovereign until US gov decides it’s not anymore. See SCHREMS and his admirable endeavours.
Yeah that’s bullshit, Microsoft already terrified that that means shit for data sovereignty as the US government can access that data whenever they want, even when it’s in Europe, even when it’s government data.
So fuck those solutions, and any sovereignty claims on that site are just plain lies. The data is stored in Europe, but that is a mere technicality as the US government can view it at any moment they want
How? Isn’t the whole point that data is stored in the EU for services that only operate inside the EU so they are not subject to US Judicial warrants or discovery?
It was the idea. Law only states that data has to remain in EU, so Microsoft servers in Ireland is enough to fulfil that requirement. They still have exceptions on their TOS that they can move that data to where ever they want if there’s a ‘technical need’ or whatever and there’s exceptions on EU laws (or maybe it was a separate agreement) which spesifically permits this. And USA can still get any data as they have leverage over the ‘main’ company, so Microsoft and others just bend the knee and give whatever is requested, no matter where the data is physically stored.
And now as all kinds of as-a-service -platforms, AI solutions very much included, are apparently the best thing since sliced bread, everyone just jumps on the bandwagon and don’t really worry about hanging themselves with a single provider nor it’s country of origin.
I believe AWS has already tried getting ahead of this by introducing their EU Sovereign Cloud offering. I can imagine regulators would still allow something like this, but time will tell.
Nha that’s not flying. The gag order thingy is still our problem with those « sovereign » clouds… it’s only sovereign until US gov decides it’s not anymore. See SCHREMS and his admirable endeavours.
Yeah that’s bullshit, Microsoft already terrified that that means shit for data sovereignty as the US government can access that data whenever they want, even when it’s in Europe, even when it’s government data.
So fuck those solutions, and any sovereignty claims on that site are just plain lies. The data is stored in Europe, but that is a mere technicality as the US government can view it at any moment they want
How? Isn’t the whole point that data is stored in the EU for services that only operate inside the EU so they are not subject to US Judicial warrants or discovery?
It was the idea. Law only states that data has to remain in EU, so Microsoft servers in Ireland is enough to fulfil that requirement. They still have exceptions on their TOS that they can move that data to where ever they want if there’s a ‘technical need’ or whatever and there’s exceptions on EU laws (or maybe it was a separate agreement) which spesifically permits this. And USA can still get any data as they have leverage over the ‘main’ company, so Microsoft and others just bend the knee and give whatever is requested, no matter where the data is physically stored.
And now as all kinds of as-a-service -platforms, AI solutions very much included, are apparently the best thing since sliced bread, everyone just jumps on the bandwagon and don’t really worry about hanging themselves with a single provider nor it’s country of origin.