• knexcar@lemmy.world
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    Is this budget for convincing the general public to support them, or convincing US politicians? Because if it’s the former I don’t see it working or anyone believing the lies. Bloomberg tried something similar to get into the democratic primary and I’m pretty sure he failed spectacularly.

    But I’d bet it’s the latter, and I let buying US politicians will continue to be successful. Because if both republicans and democrats support Israel, even if the public hates them who else is there to vote for?

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      It’s definitely for the former

      $730 million for public diplomacy — the broad category known in Hebrew as hasbara — nearly five times the $150 million they allocated the year before.

      Hasbara is about changing perception of the general public. The only reason we see some shift in government officials changing their course is because of how toxic support from Israel is seen (so much so that they can lose elections because of it).

      So long as Israel can perform public advocacy to at least get to a place of neutral outlook (or become a sideline topic), then they’d have achieved their goals.

      Israel’s current stated goal is to increase Arab-phobia and Islamophobia through populism and anti-immigration rhetoric to be greater than people’s disdain for Israel.

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      4 hours ago

      3rd parties, independents, just not voting period, there are a lot of options… we’re too far gone now though, no matter what we need to fully destroy and rebuild our government from the constitution up.

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        Every time an election comes up though, everyone is like “we need to vote for the democrats because third party/not voting is ‘a vote for the republicans’” and sadly I have to admit due to how first past the post elections work they do have a point. So any individual voting for anything other than a democrat (or not voting) makes it less likely the democrats win and more likely republicans win, and they’re by far the worse option (and still pro Israel).

        Maybe Israel’s propaganda is to dissuade people from voting for anti-Israel politicians in the primaries and the like, rather than directly make them look good.

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          In your hypothetical you stated that every voter was over both parties. If that were the case then any candidate outside of our 2 established right wing parties would win. But yes in reality we are too stupid to do literally anything else besides let the nepo babies and most malignant of our species control everything with 0 repercussions, been like that since the day we developed speech and human societies and it will remain so until we are no more. We are the species with the least ability to learn apparently, even with all the new tools we constantly develop to help us we are doomed to repeat the exact same mistakes for the entirety of our existence.

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    I will forgive israel if they give me all the land they occupy. I will immediately give it to Palestine

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    Israel is a pariah terrorist state created out of thin air by the British which displaced 700,000 people who’d lived there for centuries

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      Nuh uh, god granted a piece of sun-blasted desert to special people then also created lush and verdant plains and forests elsewhere on the planet.

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    Reminds me of the most popular intelectual property and celebrities has the biggest ad compaign despite not needing it. Same here , israel proved that they can get away with full blown genocide with minimal pressure

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    Israel was a fucking mistake. I’m not anti-semetic. I’m anti-Israel. I have no problem with Jews. I have a problem with a genocidal, land-stealing dictatorship mascarading as a cruisading democracy that has no value on human life. Fuck Israel.

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    I don’t think Israel can recover their reputation within foreseeable future. They’d need to completely reform everything.

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    I would rather have healthcare for all Americans before sending another tax payer cent to those genocidal maniacs. Stop sending money and arms to Israel full stop!

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      israel has healthcare for all, because they can afford since they dont need fund thier war machine, using USA as a proxy for all thier wars.

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    Remember how just like 3 years ago it was super rare to see videos of people being murdered in broad daylight on common social media platforms. ?

    If you wanted to see that dark shit you had to go to dark places online to find it.

    Now it’s every day I see a video on Instagram of someone murdered in broad daylight.

    The u.s president even posted such a video.

    But the videos I see every day…

    Yeah Most of the time it is IDF killing a civilian.

    Some innocent person. Sometimes a child.

    No coming back from that. We all have seen it now.

    We all know. We ain’t gonna un-know.

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      it was originally largely targeting harris/biden campaign, i guess they never stopped, because they thought showing it would give them continued support.

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    Ngl, Israeli propaganda used to be a lot more subtle. Now it’s like they don’t even bother trying. They’ve lost their way.

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      they went hard on reddit, Worldnews was taken over by them overnight, plus they start spreading it to like r/pics as biden is sole cause (stop voting for him) propaganda, i was able to report those and they did get banned for a while. funny how that immediately disappeared the moment the election ended, no word of them condemning trump for the same thing.

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      It’s like they’re hellbent on living out the antisemitic stereotypes. It’s getting difficult to fight antisemitism outside of Israel.

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        I don’t see a lot of anti-semitism aside from fringe internet forums. Anti Zionism is pretty popular though.

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          israel was able to convince many instituitions int he western democracies that anti-zionism is anti-semetic, Universities has been quashing dissent since.

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            Not a single institute and western leaders believes antizionism is antisemetic. They willingfully support a genocidal state that they always knew it’s nature

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    This is a panic move. I predict that the Gaza genocide; the Iran War; along with allowing support for Israel to become a partisan issue, will go down as the biggest mistakes in Israeli history.

    Even if you don’t care about dead Arabs, you can draw a direct line between Israel and $5 gas. American support for Israel is low and dropping. It’s not just the anti-Semites and far-left who oppose Israel anymore.

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      And I don’t think the war and $5 gas are fully reflected in these opinion surveys quite yet.

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      even more so since it also involves why they are doing gaza, iran war, to distract from epstein files.

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        Should look up the length of Gaza genocide. It’s not a recent issue. Goes back a bit.