And, a recent tour of one of the Asian powerhouse’s vehicle plants has proved this beyond a shadow of a doubt, at least to Honda President and CEO Toshihiro Mibe.
“We have no chance against this,” Mibe said upon a visit to a Shanghai parts factory, commenting on its seamless automation across all levels of production. Logistics, procurement and all aspects of the process were so automated, in fact, that he did not spot a single human worker on the supplier’s floor.
Ford executives saying even three years ago that China was way ahead of the game
Toyota’s CEO has likewise said regarding not just his company, but the industry in general, “unless things change, we will not survive”
I don’t and never stated anything about the EU or their cars. But best of luck in your argument with the person you have replaced me with in your head.
I used the EU as an example. You never stated where you were going to purchase this ideal car, nor where this car would have been made.
How are you confident that even “old” cars made recently don’t have surveillance equipment installed by some actor, corp or government, similar to how smartphones have backdoors accessible to state intelligence agencies?
Unless you plan on buying cars before the addition of built-in GPS or “OnStar”-like systems, and clearly before cars started having built-in Wi-Fi and touchscreens, no car out there is entirely open-sourced in terms of hardware and software.
If you do plan on finding vehicles before that time period and can take care of one so it’s efficient and meets emissions standards, more power to you.
My original point about me critiquing you for calling out Chinese spying on their vehicles bought and sold in foreign countries still stands. As cars become more and more integrated with the Internet-of-Things (IoT) and has remotely telemetry capabilities, and if open source regulation lags behind, spying is the norm regardless of country. It’s biased to only think that China does this.
I daily drive a 1985, the newest I have ever owned is a 2008 and will not change unless they make a non spying car. I have education in computer science and do know when a device is reporting in so no I will never have a vehicle with any sort of on star.
And this is the poison america has given to the world, the idea that you have to buy this shit. If people actually had the option to not buy the bullshit new they would. But the options are just removed, and not organically but from a cabal system of corporate interests. But there is a silver lining, people can not afford these new spy cars and debt is running out. The stuff around me driving around seems to be 1995 to 2010 at the moment, not due to what people prefer but what they can afford.
The idea that people have to live with shit is pathetic. As I said if given the option people would take the cheap non IoT things, but they don’t make that stuff. The free market has become the freedom to buy what they sell you, and that’s perverse.
And at the end of the day, I’d rather have my data stolen by a country looking out for my own interests as a working class individual who doesn’t own a house nor business nor factory than by a country looking out for the interests of the elite that game the system year over year looking for new ways to fleece working class individuals of all they own.
Espionage can be used to uphold good systems of governance, so long as it is the capitalists being spied on first and foremost.
So not the us, or China as both have a very bad track record? And once again why is it “at the end of the day” being phrased as a choice between who is spying on you? Fuck that, don’t let them spy on you, you should not care about “good” spying anyway. Why are people (mostly americans) such pushovers? When did everyone get a oppression fetish? Why is not wanting to spend stupid amounts of money on a device that lets your insurance, car company and government spy on you now seen as weird?
What track record?
Oh, wow OK. I did not appreciate your level of willful ignorance. Well I know when continuing is pointless.
Ditto