Chanting ‘from the river to the sea’ would be criminalised under proposed state law

  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    So what part of owing the Jews plays into their support of Israel(a state that does not represent Jews as an ethnicity) factors into supporting:

    An apartheid ethnostate?

    Genocide against Palestinians?

    Rampant and violent expansionism in Palestine?

    Rampant and violent expansionism against nearly all of Israel’s neighbors?

    Mass rape of prisoners of war?

    Employing the most notorious pedophile to traffic minors to rich elites and politicians in an elaborate blackmail scheme?

    An illegal and offensive war with Iran that has tanked the global economy?

    Illegally possessing nuclear weapons and threatening to use them against Palestine?

    Exporting mass surveillance technology to authoritarian regimes?

    These are just a few of Israel’s crimes against humanity. But I guess you think Germany should have to endlessly support those monsters.

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      20 hours ago

      So what part of owing the Jews plays into their support of Israel(a state that does not represent Jews as an ethnicity) factors into supporting:

      Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about? You can’t even easily get a citizenship without Jewish links, and that’s not even without getting into the WW2 and how modern Israel came to be (again?)

      An apartheid ethnostate?

      It might be best to refrain from using words whose definitions can be a bit advanced, and therefore end up being misused in completely wrong contexts.

      For the rest of your points - I just simply stated why Germany does this, not really getting into why they should not, but if you look at the Ie. military exports, then it has fallen quite drastically, so the support has definitely fallen.

      When it comes to Europe and support of Islamic States versus support for other western countries or their allies - I don’t think I need to elaborate here.

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        So what part of owing the Jews plays into their support of Israel(a state that does not represent Jews as an ethnicity) factors into supporting:

        Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?

        You said something incredibly stupid and I’m wanting answers about it. I highly doubt the Germans feel they owe the Jews to the point Israel should have their full support to commit crimes against humanity.

        Also, Israel DOES NOT represent Jews as an ethnicity nor a religion. Don’t spew Zionist propaganda.

        You can’t even easily get a citizenship without Jewish links,

        Yes, because its an ethnostate.

        and that’s not even without getting into the WW2 and how modern Israel came to be (again?)

        Yes, it came to be through a fascist ideology (colonialism and Zionism) and genocide of Palestinians (the Nakba). Did Geany owe the Jews to the point of supporting those atrocities?

        It might be best to refrain from using words whose definitions can be a bit advanced,

        ISRAEL IS INDISPUTABLY A GENOCIDAL APARTHEID STATE

        May want to join us in reality.

        and therefore end up being misused in completely wrong contexts.

        May not want to dish out advice you clearly do not have any intentions to follow.

        For the rest of your points - I just simply stated why Germany does this, not really getting into why they should not,

        My points are to bring up the absurdity of your statement. Israel is not some gift to the Jews. It’s a genocidal monster and you can’t in earnest pretend for a second that the German political class isn’t fully aware of this by this point.

        but if you look at the Ie. military exports, then it has fallen quite drastically, so the support has definitely fallen.

        Support above 0% is too much and unjustifiable.

        This article isn’t even about support. Its about censoring dissent against the GENOCIDAL APARTHEID STATE OF ISRAEL.

        When it comes to Europe and support of Islamic States versus support for other western countries or their allies - I don’t think I need to elaborate here

        Yes, you do. Its an irrelevant point but do elaborate.

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          I wrote a pretty long comment arguing all your points, but in the end realized that what I’m doing is pretty stupid from me as this is equalivent of arguing with a religious person - completely detached from reality. All I can just say that please do not argue like this outside of 4chan and Lemmy or you will have a terrible time. It’s also seriously not wise to take awful historical events (Ie. Apartheid) and suddenly change their meaning and apply it to completely unrelated events/countries, downplaying the original event.